"Mr. Pickles Jul 20 2004, 6:18 pm show options You CAN get the actual deflection though. If you want to know how, I wrote it up in our User Group newsletter once last year. If you want to see it, here is a link to the PDF, and the Deflection issue is in the middle (or so) of the PDF. Others have asked for it and it helped them. [URL]http://www.okswug.com/images/News_Jul_2003.PDF[/URL] Mr. Pickles" Mr Pickles if you are still out there, your link appears to be no longer valid, would it be possible to see to share it again. I believe that this can now be done on SW2005 but our IT dep't still haven't gotten round to installing it yet.