Conversion of Material properties

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Muggs, Dec 1, 2003.

  1. Muggs

    Muggs Guest

    Hello All,

    I'm trying to setup some material properties for ASTM A500 Square Tubing,
    however, SolidWorks is looking for N/m^2 and MatWeb doesn't seem to have a
    conversion for this, only N s/m2 whatever that is.
    Also, you apparently can't change the units from N/m^2. My VAR sent an
    enhancement request in, and I will as well.
    Anyway I'm looking for:

    Elastic Modulus, Shear Modulus, Density, Tensile Strength, Yield Strength.
    BTW, what are GPa & MPa units?

    TIA,
    Muggs
     
    Muggs, Dec 1, 2003
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  2. Muggs

    Arlin Guest

    GPa is a GigaPascal
    MPa is a MegaPascal

    A Pascal = 1 N/m^2

    1 PSI = 6894.757 Pascals,
    or 6.894757 KiloPascals,
    or 0.006894757 MegaPascals or
    0.000006894757 GigaPascals
     
    Arlin, Dec 1, 2003
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  3. Muggs

    Muggs Guest

    Great! Thanks Arlin,

    Muggs

     
    Muggs, Dec 1, 2003
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  4. Muggs

    Arlin Guest

    Please don't be offended by this, but what is your background/education?

    Pa, MPa, GPa, and Psi are units that anyone with some rudimentary
    training in strengths of materials should be aware of. If you don't
    have much knowledge in this subject area, what do you need to use the
    information for?
     
    Arlin, Dec 1, 2003
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  5. Muggs

    Muggs Guest

    No offense taken.

    I was a Modelmaker for about 15 years, then about 4 years ago I started
    using SolidWorks with my company and started to do a lot of design.
    We made toys and consumer electronics, so my background as a modelmaker
    helped me in the design process.
    Our "schooled" designers could often design something that would not work in
    the real world, although it "looked good" on the screen.
    So to make a long story short, because of my background as a modelmaker,
    most of my designs "worked" right out of the box. And that did me well until
    I got laid off this past October, so I'm on my own, and for the first time
    designing things that are made out of materials other than plastic (steel
    tubing for instance), instead of the more comfortable, injection molded
    plastics design.
    Also, to be honest, being a prototyping/model shop, material properties were
    rarely a concern of ours. We basically knew that everything was going to be
    make from ABS, HIPS, PP, etc.

    So, anyway as to your question, I'll be using this info to get some
    COSMOSXpress data on things like "will this thing actually hold 400#, or
    not".

    So as you can see, all of my schooling is from the university of "Seat of
    the Pants".
    BTW, This NG is a Godsend. I try not to ask questions that I can figure out
    myself, but I'll admit, sometimes its easier just to ask here.

    Thanks again,
    Muggs
     
    Muggs, Dec 1, 2003
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  6. Muggs

    Arlin Guest

    all of my schooling is from the university of
    I figured as much. Just a word of caution/advice. FEA analysis does
    require a good knowledge of strengths of materials (even though FEA
    salespersons may try to convince you otherwise). Even seasoned FEA
    experts back up their analysis with (crude) hand calculations just to
    ensure the FEA is "in the ballpark."

    I would highly recommend taking some strength of materials and FEA
    courses to help your understanding. Things like fatigue, brittleness,
    stress concentrations, etc. can have a HUGE impact on your design while
    FEA often does not take such considerations into account.

    While I certainly agree that design experience counts a great deal
    towards good designing, if you are going to use analytical tools like
    FEA, you need to know what it can AND CANNOT tell you about failure.
     
    Arlin, Dec 1, 2003
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  7. Muggs

    JJ Guest

    efunda (http://www.efunda.com) is a good site for engineering information of
    all types and has units conversion page
    (http://www.efunda.com/units/index.cfm?search_string=conversion).

    HTH,

    JJ


     
    JJ, Dec 1, 2003
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  8. For some reason it has always been much easier for me to remember the
    inverse of the above. One MPa=145 psi. (Well, 145.0377 and change, but I
    hardly ever need four digit accuracy.)

    Another great site for units of measurement is

    http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/index.html

    This one really comes in handy for obscure old units.


    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
     
    Jerry Steiger, Dec 1, 2003
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  9. Muggs

    Arlin Guest

    Arlin, Dec 1, 2003
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  10. Muggs

    Chris Dubea Guest

    Please do NOT use COSMOSXpress for anything other than a seat of the
    pants feel for the strength of a part. There is no where near enough
    control or feedback to ensure that a proper FEA model has been
    created.

    FEA is not a trivial undertaking. Good analysts have years of
    experience and of training. Just as knowing how to use Microsoft Word
    does not make you a Pulitzer prize winning author, knowing how to use
    COSMOSXpress does not make you an FEA analyst. I'm not trying to be
    condescending here, but there is much more to FEA than meets the eye.

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
    Chris Dubea, Dec 3, 2003
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