Cone with crim

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Steve, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. Steve

    Steve Guest

    We manufacture a mixer drum. They are 92 inches in diameter and 280
    inches long and are tapered on both ends. We manufacture the drum in
    sections. The coned ends had a crimp to help assembly and make a area
    for a fillet weld. The problem I can NOT get Solidworks (2007) to flat
    pattern the cone section with the crimp. Does anyone have any answer or
    a way I can make the flat pattern??

    Steve

    I have an e-drawing if interested.
     
    Steve, Dec 22, 2006
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  2. Steve

    brewertr Guest

    I would be interested in seeing the drawing and any fix as well.

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Dec 23, 2006
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  3. Steve

    Cliff Guest

    Its not a developable surface.
    It's a non-developable one.
    ONLY developable surfaces can be "unfolded"
    (developed) and not even all of them.
    You could make it as two developable surfaces perhaps ...

    There are bits of software floating about to kluge a picture
    of things that are sort of like unfolded non-developable surfaces
    (could they exist) but none of them can produce accurate
    *unfolded non-developable surfaces*. There can be no such thing.

    Perhaps a non-linear package ... <G>.
     
    Cliff, Dec 23, 2006
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  4. Steve

    guynoir Guest


    Model the part. Generate a flat pattern configuration. Cut off the
    things that don't unfold. Add them back when the part is flattened.


    John Kimmel
     
    guynoir, Dec 24, 2006
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  5. Steve

    Cliff Guest

    The cone flattens to a section between two arcs with a common
    center and the same start & end angles.
    The other bit flattens to a flat strip of constant width & the same length
    as the arc.
    You need the flat strip on the OD of the flattened cone bit ..
    but that's an arc. Only one tangent point at best if you try
    to make one flat sheet from the two bits.

    It's not developable otherwise.

    HTH
     
    Cliff, Dec 24, 2006
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  6. Steve

    Steve Guest

    That's sounds like the way I am going to make it in two parts. Then
    flat pattern each and join in the burn program.

    Thanks
    Steve
     
    Steve, Dec 24, 2006
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  7. Steve

    Cliff Guest

    Then you have two parts that can be formed & welded together ....
     
    Cliff, Dec 25, 2006
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  8. Steve

    Steve Guest

    The goal of manufacturing is not to weld. Welding take an trained
    person. Where as forming takes a person who can push a part up to a stop
    and push a green button. The machine does all the work. Less labor is
    good. If it takes labor companies send the job to China. You should
    know that.

    Steve
    IE
     
    Steve, Dec 27, 2006
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    brewertr Guest

    Steve,

    What if someone tells you CAD is unskilled labor, its just some person
    drawing lines and arcs while the computer does all the work?

    Or someone says Solid Modeling that's unskilled labor, its just a
    person pushing buttons and a few mouse clicks while making pictures
    and the computer does all the work?

    Welding, forming and machining are ALL skilled labor and "you should
    know that".

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Dec 28, 2006
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  10. Steve

    Cliff Guest

    You cannot unfold/form this as described; it's not developable.
    Better to control the geometry & weld (it has to be welded anyway,
    right?) & skip that formed "flange" IMHO.

    HTH
     
    Cliff, Dec 28, 2006
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  11. Steve

    Cliff Guest

    Are we thinking of clueless jb here?
     
    Cliff, Dec 28, 2006
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