computer question

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by billyb, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. billyb

    billyb Guest

    I know this is not a SW question but lots of smart people here. I had
    to have my Windows XP Pro reinstalled, computer problems.
    Is there any way (i.e. Norton Utilities) or other software that I can
    retrieve my lost data? The person that reinstalled windows did not
    make a back up file or directory.
     
    billyb, Jul 4, 2007
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  2. billyb

    pete Guest

    The short answer is no, unless, you just repaired the previous windows
    install.

    If this is not the case............................then,

    The first person to be sacked, is you, for not having a backup procedure in
    place and the second, is the person who re-installed xp windows for also not
    making a backup.

    Would I sack you or the other person? too dam right I would! lol
    :p

    Any serious IT person will always make a backup and another and then
    another.

    If you have mega bucks to spare, you could try a data retrieval company, but
    even then, it is very unlikely to get back the data that you want.

    Sorry the news couldn't be happier.
     
    pete, Jul 4, 2007
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  3. billyb

    Bo Guest

    Use the Boy Scout Motto: Be Prepared.

    For the future, start reading and practice replacing your own hard
    drives and installing OS's, and dealing with backups yourself. It
    sounds like no one else is doing it, so you have a new skill set to
    learn.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Jul 4, 2007
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  4. billyb

    Flynt Guest

    Mmmmm......how many of us just did a backup just in case?

    F
     
    Flynt, Jul 4, 2007
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  5. billyb

    devlin Guest

    Everyday. Lose one hard drive and you're data and you'll learn to
    backup too.
     
    devlin, Jul 4, 2007
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    Cliff Guest

    And VERIFY THEM !!!!
    I've seen fortune 500 IT departments making backups .. too
    bad there was no actual valid data written to the media (or
    filesystems were missed, etc.)
     
    Cliff, Jul 4, 2007
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  7. billyb

    Bo Guest

    There is a good way to do a verify, that always attempts to be safe
    without excessive expense, but I've not seen it described directly
    before, so here is how BoDoes Simple Backup:

    1. Duplicate Data Files from Desktop PC to an external Hard Drive
    (FireWire in my case & I use Retrospect from EMC for now).

    2. Duplicate External FW Hard Drive to my Laptop PC. I now use the
    files on my laptop most of the time, so I verify that the latest
    project gets transferred successfully (never had it fail in 15 years
    with Retrospect, as long as it was to hard drives. I have had WAY TOO
    MANY failures in tapes & tape drives so many times, I won't use them).

    3. At this point the same files reside on 3 hard drives and the time
    take to duplicate a typical days work manually like this is maybe 10
    minutes to update each disk's contents (takes longer the first time to
    load all data files to the external hard drive and then laptop HD).

    The method above does NOT prevent corrupted files from being
    transferred, and is not literally an archiving process, so you can't
    go back to earlier versions of the projects' files. Retrospect will
    do archiving of only changed files and I do that too onto other larger
    500 GB external or networked drives. Retrospect uses a single
    expanding data file containing all versions of all files, so there is
    always the chance that a corrupted Retrospect Archive file might
    become unreadable (though I've not had that happen). I would actually
    prefer an archiving function that put the files into structured
    folders with a browser that would let me find things manually if ever
    needed.

    Retrospect does a good variety of tasks, as other good Backup/
    Archiving software programs do, and the good ones also offer timed
    backups so you can have less manual labor to maintain things.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Jul 4, 2007
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  8. billyb

    TOP Guest

    There are people who can recover data off a hard drive even in
    situations like yours. The problem is they generally work for the NSA,
    CIA or FBI. Search the net for hard drive data recovery services.
    Of course if you are now using this machine you are only making things
    worse. You may find it not cost effective.

    TOP
     
    TOP, Jul 5, 2007
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  9. billyb

    Cliff Guest

    Do a binary compare *from* the backup with the source.
    But that does not assure that you backed up everything that
    you needed to to begin with.
     
    Cliff, Jul 5, 2007
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  10. billyb

    Cliff Guest

    Disk images may not be a good way.
    They are fine for some purposes but perhaps not for
    reinstalling on a new (or repartitioned) disk or filesystem.
    IF that's what you had in mind.
     
    Cliff, Jul 5, 2007
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    Bo Guest

    To date, every Retrospect "Duplicate" of an entire OS partition I've
    done on the Mac has resulted in bootable disks. I haven't had reason
    to try it on Windows.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Jul 5, 2007
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  12. billyb

    Cliff Guest

    Tried to reinstall on a different drive/partition size from one?
    I've not tried to boot from one ....
     
    Cliff, Jul 6, 2007
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  13. billyb

    Bo Guest

    Not what I had in mind. Read quick, replied quicker.

    I don't use disk images. I do creates 'images' of one disk on a 2nd
    so that 2nd will boot.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Jul 6, 2007
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    Joe Sloppy Guest

    I did the same thing a long time ago, I thought I grabbed my SW
    directory but didn't. I reformatted and reinstalled WIN XP. Thought I
    was a dead man when I didn't find my files on DISC, did a quick search
    on the net and found a program to recover deleted files, even from
    formatted hard drives, NOT to hard. It took a half hour search and I
    was able to recover everything, no problems. everything still
    available. You can try a free program call RESTORATION or ACTIVE makes
    one called UNERASER you could try. There are also a lot of cheap,
    generic ones that contain spyware, adware and don't work worth
    anything. Test out the trials till you get one that you like, use it
    to find your files, then buy the software. Good Luck!
     
    Joe Sloppy, Jul 11, 2007
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  15. billyb

    Bo Guest

    Most "Recovery" or "Unerase" programs work only if:

    1. you did NOT overwrite the hard drive with new data
    2. the hard drive has not had an electrical or hardware failure
    3. the drive has not been scrambled by an electrical failure during
    a write which can cause the drive to not be recognized or mountable.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Jul 11, 2007
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