Computer for Mechanical Dynamics Simulators

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by cadcoke3, Jan 13, 2005.

  1. cadcoke3

    cadcoke3 Guest

    Our company is in the process of adopting Solidworks. We are about
    to purchase some new computers for this with the following specs;

    -Dell optiPlex GX280 SMT
    with Int Broadcom® GbNIC Intel® Pentium® 4
    Processor 550 (3.40GHz, 1M, 800MHz FSB) 34GT

    -Memory; 2.0GB DDR2 Non-ECC SDRAM,533MHz, (2DIMM) 2G2N52

    -video; NVIDIA QUADRO FX 1300 with 128meg DDR memory on PCI express

    We are also strongly considering using Cosmos Motion in the future. I
    recall reading that there is no significant benefit to using
    dual-processors for Solidworks. Therefore the money is better put
    towards more and faster memory and video. But, I wonder if the Cosmos
    Motion software is different...

    Would Cosmos Motion take advantage of a dual-processor system?

    Which is the most common bottle-neck for Cosmos Motion... memory size
    or processor speed?

    Joe Dunfee
     
    cadcoke3, Jan 13, 2005
    #1
  2. cadcoke3

    pete Guest

    Before you buy the Dell's, bear in mind, that their motherboards are unique
    to Dell and a replacement will cost you around £285, without fitting.
    As Shown in PC Magazine.




    Our company is in the process of adopting Solidworks. We are about
    to purchase some new computers for this with the following specs;

    -Dell optiPlex GX280 SMT
    with Int Broadcom® GbNIC Intel® Pentium® 4
    Processor 550 (3.40GHz, 1M, 800MHz FSB) 34GT

    -Memory; 2.0GB DDR2 Non-ECC SDRAM,533MHz, (2DIMM) 2G2N52

    -video; NVIDIA QUADRO FX 1300 with 128meg DDR memory on PCI express

    We are also strongly considering using Cosmos Motion in the future. I
    recall reading that there is no significant benefit to using
    dual-processors for Solidworks. Therefore the money is better put
    towards more and faster memory and video. But, I wonder if the Cosmos
    Motion software is different...

    Would Cosmos Motion take advantage of a dual-processor system?

    Which is the most common bottle-neck for Cosmos Motion... memory size
    or processor speed?

    Joe Dunfee
     
    pete, Jan 13, 2005
    #2
  3. cadcoke3

    kmaren24 Guest

    Aren't optiplex computers plain office PC's? I would stay away from
    the optiplex's.
     
    kmaren24, Jan 13, 2005
    #3
  4. cadcoke3

    cadcoke3 Guest

    Yes, they are intended for "plain office," but our company has had a
    good relation with them for several years, and are the computer brand
    we use by default. However, we can purchase other systems if we wish.

    The Optiplex line is the next level below their workstation series,
    which feature the ability to use dual-processors. However, our
    computer services guy seems to think the Optiplex is the best bang for
    the buck if we don't want dual-processing. (I quit years ago trying to
    keep up with computer technology, and things like which type of memory
    is the fastest)
     
    cadcoke3, Jan 14, 2005
    #4
  5. We use the Dell Precision series and are very pleased with them.

    WT

    Our company is in the process of adopting Solidworks. We are about
    to purchase some new computers for this with the following specs;

    -Dell optiPlex GX280 SMT
    with Int Broadcom® GbNIC Intel® Pentium® 4
    Processor 550 (3.40GHz, 1M, 800MHz FSB) 34GT

    -Memory; 2.0GB DDR2 Non-ECC SDRAM,533MHz, (2DIMM) 2G2N52

    -video; NVIDIA QUADRO FX 1300 with 128meg DDR memory on PCI express

    We are also strongly considering using Cosmos Motion in the future. I
    recall reading that there is no significant benefit to using
    dual-processors for Solidworks. Therefore the money is better put
    towards more and faster memory and video. But, I wonder if the Cosmos
    Motion software is different...

    Would Cosmos Motion take advantage of a dual-processor system?

    Which is the most common bottle-neck for Cosmos Motion... memory size
    or processor speed?

    Joe Dunfee
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Jan 14, 2005
    #5
  6. cadcoke3

    dennyt Guest

    Don't forget about fast hard drives. They can make a noticeable
    difference in the performance of Windows and SolidWorks whenever you're
    working on large models.

    If you can afford an extra drive or two (RAID 0) for your windows
    pagefile, cosmos "work" directory, and current projects in use, you'll
    see a big performance increase. Don't keep anything on a RAID 0 array
    you don't want to lose, i.e. backup daily.

    The Western Digital Raptor SATA drives are the fastest out there now,
    as far as I know, without going to SCSI.

    -Denny Trimble
     
    dennyt, Jan 14, 2005
    #6
  7. cadcoke3

    CS Guest

    Old Dell Precision and no complaints yet except for the Old part. I hope to
    swing something new and powerful this year but I don't have too much pull in
    the finance department.

    Corey

    Our company is in the process of adopting Solidworks. We are about
    to purchase some new computers for this with the following specs;

    -Dell optiPlex GX280 SMT
    with Int Broadcom® GbNIC Intel® Pentium® 4
    Processor 550 (3.40GHz, 1M, 800MHz FSB) 34GT

    -Memory; 2.0GB DDR2 Non-ECC SDRAM,533MHz, (2DIMM) 2G2N52

    -video; NVIDIA QUADRO FX 1300 with 128meg DDR memory on PCI express

    We are also strongly considering using Cosmos Motion in the future. I
    recall reading that there is no significant benefit to using
    dual-processors for Solidworks. Therefore the money is better put
    towards more and faster memory and video. But, I wonder if the Cosmos
    Motion software is different...

    Would Cosmos Motion take advantage of a dual-processor system?

    Which is the most common bottle-neck for Cosmos Motion... memory size
    or processor speed?

    Joe Dunfee
     
    CS, Jan 14, 2005
    #7
  8. cadcoke3

    clay Guest

    What the ell is the point of having a raid array if you have to backup
    daily?
     
    clay, Jan 18, 2005
    #8
  9. cadcoke3

    dennytrimble Guest

    Well, there are different types of RAID arrays for different purposes.


    Most engineers store their project files on servers, and probably copy
    their work to and from their computers daily. So, reliability of the
    workstation isn't as critical as reliability of the server.
    Conversely, speed of the workstation is more important than speed of
    the server (unless you're working over the network, in which case
    ignore all of this).

    RAID 0 (striping) is the cheapest way to get faster disk speed, but
    also the least reliable. Each file is split and stored on multiple
    drives, but if one drive fails, the file / stripeset is lost.

    RAID 1 (mirroring) is more reliable than a single disk but offers no
    speed increase.

    RAID 5 offers a speed increase and more reliability but several disks
    are required and a hardware RAID card as well, which gets expensive and
    requires a large case, power supply, etc. Usually this is only used on
    servers.

    I've actually had good luck using RAID 0 with Windows Disk Manager
    (windows 2000, no RAID card needed). You can't boot from it, but
    putting project files and my windows swap file on a striped drive has
    shown the biggest increase in system responsiveness (opening files /
    programs, saving large files, switching windows between programs, etc)
    per dollar spent.
    See www.tomshardware.com for more info....

    -Denny Trimble
     
    dennytrimble, Jan 18, 2005
    #9
  10. cadcoke3

    Cliff Guest

    Much faster reads & writes of large files to & from the disks.
    IIRC RAID 0 is akin to a stripeset. It's not redundant and
    even the redundant arrays (RAID 3 IIRC) should be backed up.
    You never know when more than one drive in them might fail or
    if it will all actually work when only one does. That one might
    fail & nobody notices til a second one does and all comes
    crashing down ..... with no backups.
    Then the controller might fail too & perhaps corrupt the data
    (I suppose) or a flood, fire, theft, etc.
     
    Cliff, Jan 18, 2005
    #10
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