Command line deleted in Acad2006?

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by S Scalise, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. S Scalise

    S Scalise Guest

    Rumor or fact - Has the command line been done away with in '06 version?
     
    S Scalise, Mar 22, 2005
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  2. They give you the option to turn it off. They've added a pop-up at the
    cursor to take input. From what I've read turning off the command line
    may cause problems because most messages from the program appear only at
    the command line. No command line visible = no messages visible.

    Martin
     
    Martin Shoemaker, Mar 22, 2005
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  3. S Scalise

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    In addition to Martin's comments, check out:

    http://www.dotsoft.com/acad2006.htm
     
    R.K. McSwain, Mar 23, 2005
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    CW Guest

    Chances are pretty slim. There are still many, many people that use it.
     
    CW, Mar 23, 2005
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  5. S Scalise

    S Scalise Guest

    Thanks for the replies.
    Guess it will be wait and see how I/we adapt to the new environment.
     
    S Scalise, Mar 23, 2005
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    Pete Guest

    I read an article in a CAD magazine maybe a year ago. The guy actually
    wrote that the command line was out-dated. He believed there was no more use
    for it and that AutoDesk should eliminate it. If that ever happens, I say
    bye-bye Acad. Think of it's value alone just for testing lisp commands and
    using command aliases. And what about commands that still exist but can't
    be found on any menu or toolbar??? TK (for tracking; yes I use it), and
    MVSETUP??? (how else can you align objects in multiple viewports?), to
    mention just two of many.

    AutoDesk needs to put on the brakes and clean up the mess they leave behind
    with every premature new release. Its like all the space junk that's
    floating in orbit around the Earth. I never see any patches; just new
    releases with new features and abandoned old, flawed ones.
     
    Pete, Mar 24, 2005
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    jimb Guest

    I agree. I live in a 2D-3D Mechanical Desktop/Autocad world trying to
    remain competitive with Inventor and Solidworks.

    I am a newcomer (only since release 9) and I first learned picking
    commands of a tablet with a stylus. I then went to puck. I then went
    to menu and mouse. THEN a mentor told me "Let me show you how to get
    faster (commands/lisp)..."

    The ONLY reason I hang on the MDT is that it can be command/lisp/pgp
    driven. If I have to use toolbars (which IMHO are much slower than
    commands) than I might as well learn something more competitive like
    Solidworks.

    'sides that, what do I do with my left hand?

    jimB
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    jimb, Mar 24, 2005
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    Modat22 Guest


    Yep menus are very slow to use when you can do lisp and shortcuts. I'm
    glad to hear more people state the truth.


    As for the command line being gone. I head that you will be able to
    keep it where it is with a configuration change.
     
    Modat22, Mar 24, 2005
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    Remo-Shiva Guest

    As for the command line being gone. I head that you will be able to
    I REALLY hope this is true, I think I use maybe 5 or 6 icons and everything
    else is command based, it is sooo much faster, and if Autodesk can't see
    that and decide to bin it then as Pete said "bye-bye Acad"!!!!!!!

    Remo
     
    Remo-Shiva, Mar 24, 2005
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    Modat22 Guest


    This makes me wonder if they want folks to start using dual monitors,
    put the command screen on one and drawing on the other. I used to do
    that way back in release 10 and nth engine.
     
    Modat22, Mar 24, 2005
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    The Jester Guest

    So here Modat22 is once more, in the playground of the broken hearts ...
    It's much faster than menus, indeed, but I know some people that can't get
    used to typing shortcuts with their left hand and clicking with the right
    (or vice versa). It took me about a week to get used to it (after advise
    from an experienced user), and I don't regret going through some hassle for
    a single minute. The only time I use the toolbars are during an active
    command, mainly zooming or non-running osnap's.

    My 2 cents ...

    The Jester
     
    The Jester, Mar 25, 2005
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  12. S Scalise

    Modat22 Guest

    I wonder why Autodesk hasn't tried to improve the use of shortcuts and
    lisp as much as they're trying to implement toolbars and menus. Most
    of the old school CAD people I know use shortcuts and lisp and refuse
    to use the menu system.
     
    Modat22, Mar 25, 2005
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  13. Buttons and menus are easier for rookies who aren't paid much. No one
    expects them to be fast.
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Mar 25, 2005
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    The Jester Guest

    So here Michael Bulatovich is once more, in the playground of the broken
    hearts ...
    Sure, but some of the people I know - and that was my point - don't even
    want to try to become faster. Besides, being faster isn't the only
    advantage. I found it annoying that Autodesk put commands in different
    places in the menus with new releases, sometimes. Oh well, it's all a matter
    of preference as well, I guess ...

    The Jester
     
    The Jester, Mar 25, 2005
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    CW Guest

    They're after the new market. They already have the old.
     
    CW, Mar 26, 2005
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    Remo-Shiva Guest

    I hope thats not the case as my 2nd monitor is used to stretch CAD accross
    them both so I can draw sections and elevations whilst having a bigger
    working area on both view ports. The command line doesn't need to take up
    anymore than 3 or 4 lines at the bottom of the screen unless your listing
    objects.

    I guess I never really thought about the left hand for commands and right
    for mouse aspect of it, and that it could cause problems for some poeple, I
    am a lefty so it works in my favour but then I have learnt to do many things
    right handed to save problems, ie playing the guitar, playing the drums,
    using a pc with the mouse on the right, plus a load more. And as for speed
    not being an issue, that is crap as most of you will agree, its only the
    office junior that isn't expected to be very fast, if you want a career as a
    draughtsman you MUST be fast which will mean using the command line,
    Autodesk will really shoot themselves in the foot if they got rid of it!

    Remo
     
    Remo-Shiva, Mar 26, 2005
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