I asked this question a long time ago with no real solution tom the problem. I take the base acad.ctb plot style and change only colors 1-8 to plot black then save as acad1.ctb I print from acad2002 (actually ADT3.3), and the acad1.ctb is darker than the original acad.ctb. This happen all of the time. Any new ctb or stb I create or one edited from the originals is always darker than the base styles that came with the software. I want the shade or colors that come in the acad.ctb. but with colors 1-8 plotting black. Each time I edit or create a new plot style, the colors are always darker. Printer settings are all the same, nothing changes. Please help Thanks Timothy A Green Midland, TX