OK now pay attention. Suppose you have V7 and put up the Architectural Sampler library. Now drag the Tree Elev symbol onto the page. Dimension it vertically. Suppose it comes out 7'. The objective is to change the size to any dimension and have the dimension follow it (of course). So you drag-select both, start moving the right top corner handle out and type R, click the Relative icon. Input what you want, say 1'. Or use the Absolute icon. Or Explode the symbol. Or use any old handle, input X and Y values. Huh? Once in a while it works, then it's just nutty. I'm trying to get my wife to use this program for landscaping and what she needs to do is quickly change the size of various symbols to the absolute values she wants, and to vary them to see whatevertheheck it is that landscapers want to see. It doesn't seem that the relative coordinate dialog box has what she needs. I'm getting dissed! Any thoughts on a reliable way to do this using AS? H