Can anyone compare Chief Architect to Acad?

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Niko, Mar 26, 2005.

  1. Niko

    Niko Guest

    I am looking for an alternative to AutoCAD for architectural drafting.
    How does Chief Architect fit that bill?
    Thanks,
    Nick C
     
    Niko, Mar 26, 2005
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  2. Niko

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post Niko says...
    When you say "Architectural Drafting" what kind of things are you trying
    to draw?

    If 2D stuff then Chief can do it, but is not very flexible in how the
    information is presented. On the other hand if you want to do elevations
    and 3D views then Chief might be the ticket.

    I've been working with an architect who uses Sketchup for the renderings
    and other "picture" views and Visual Cadd for the 2D construction
    drawings. He imports both bitmaps and DXF's from Sketchup into Visual
    Cadd to complete his construction sets.
     
    Bob Morrison, Mar 26, 2005
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  3. Niko

    CW Guest

    The one guy I know that uses Chief tells me that it is great from the 3D
    standpoint but when it comes to the details, he uses Turbocad.
     
    CW, Mar 26, 2005
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  4. Don't know about "Chief Architect". I use "ProgeCAD 2005" which is the
    original authors of "IntelliCAD". For a FREE program, it does all A/C and
    more. In fact, saves work as A/C *fill in the edition* format.
     
    Steve Kachaylo, Mar 26, 2005
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  5. Niko

    Niko Guest

    Thanks for replies. I do mostly 2D floorplans & elevations for
    residential and light commercial. I've worked with Acad for many years,
    but heard that Chief has very good 3d capabilities, something that I
    never explored in Acad in any depth.
    Regarding the last post, I was not aware that any other program
    (Progecad 2005?) was able to generate native .dwg files
    Niko C
     
    Niko, Mar 28, 2005
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  6. Niko

    LouR Guest

    Bob, i used to use Mechanical Desktop and Autocad 3d to do renderings of my
    architural jobs, until
    i found a great software called sketchUp. check it out at www.sketchup.com
    you 400 free hours of use.
    it is so simple and it is one of the best for 3D presentations. if you dont
    want to download it. check out
    their free tuturials to see how easy and simple this softare is.

    LouR
     
    LouR, Mar 28, 2005
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  7. Niko

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post Niko says...
    Take a look at the various flavors of Intellicad of which Progecad is
    one (Cadopia and Bricscad are two more). There is also Virtual Drafter.

    As I said in my earlier post some architects I'm familiar with use
    Sketchup and Visual Cadd (which can open and save DWG files).
     
    Bob Morrison, Mar 28, 2005
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    clintonG Guest

    I'm a degreed architect and was a Chief Architect reseller. Yes, Sketchup is
    amazing software but it is a conceptual design tool with no floor planning
    tools -- using Sketchup for floor plans takes too much time to create and
    modify compared to what I am recommending.

    Chief Architect was literally developed by a rocket scientist from the
    defense industry and unbeknownst to most people it made history as it was
    literally the first object oriented CAD program to be sold commercially and
    really does deserve the historical distinction. I can say this as I was 'in
    the business' in some capacity since 1984 and have owned, resold, or used
    practically every CAD program on the planet. About 2 years after Chief
    Architect was released the copy cat Revit was developed and was quickly
    snapped up by Autopimp who continues to sell it using the same name.

    Let me put things into perspective though: Chief Architect is an outstanding
    best floor planning and spatial design tool around -- arguably the best --
    but its vector line work was always poor as was its detailing and
    construction documentation capabilities. Its dimensioning was also flakey as
    it had a goofy implementation of witness lines and so on. Things do change
    though as my last reference point was release 3.5.

    Here's the good news though... 3D Home Architect can be purchased for $69
    from Broderbund which *is* Chief Architect rebranded and downsized. Since
    day one Chief Architect has been licensed to Broderbund to raise money for
    marketing Chief Architect. 3D Home Architect can literally be thought of as
    Chief Architect Light.

    3D Home Architect has all of the floor planning and related functions as
    Chief Architect and is fantastic for residential or commercial floor
    planning and space studies but does not have the residential builder
    quantity take-off and estimating unctions that the more expensive Chief
    Architect provides. I do not remember if 3D Home Architect supports dxf
    export which would allow you to export to AutoCAD. Check it out because 3D
    Home Architect is the best value. I've cranked preliminary designs in as
    little as 30 minutes and had an agreement to proceed signed sealed and
    delivered while sitting at a client's dining room table. I kid you not it is
    the f*cking cat's meeow. 3D Home Architect is what you want to try out if
    you want to buy into Chief Architect and even if you decide not to buy up 3D
    Home Architect remains valuable.

    Hey, why be a dummy and rely on us for advice though? Contact your local
    residential builder's association and ask if you can attend a couple of
    meetings as a guest. Talk to the builders themselves and find one or two who
    use Chief Architect and get yourself invited to their office to see how it
    is actually used in practice. I've NEVER met a residential builder that
    would turn down a free lunch. :)

    Finally, if you can justify paying the price of admission you should
    evaluate Graphisoft's ArchiCAD as it is Autodesk's most successful
    competitor for 2D or 3D A/E/C applications.

    --
    <%= Clinton Gallagher
    NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
    URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
     
    clintonG, Mar 29, 2005
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  9. Niko

    CW Guest

    About a year ago, I was going to use 3D Home Architec to do a preliminary
    for a custom house. Turns out that it is limited in the angles you can lay
    the walls at. Ended up using Floorplan 3D. Worked much better.
     
    CW, Mar 29, 2005
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