Cadence Remote Access

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by vtcad, Mar 15, 2007.

  1. vtcad

    vtcad Guest

    I"m looking for a company that offers short term Cadence Virtuoso
    Layout Licence leasing. I have heard they exist, but have been unable
    to locate them. If anyone had heard of these types of companies could
    you please let me know. Or if anyone has any good suggeston for
    working remotely using Cadence for Layout, please let me know (I've
    used Exceed on Demand and its to slow) . I have heard of people
    Loading the Cadence software on their home computer, then pulling the
    Cadence Licence over the network, any thoughts?
     
    vtcad, Mar 15, 2007
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  2. vtcad

    daytripper Guest

    That's how I do it - along with pulling the design object and all libraries
    home as well. That way only the license request/response goes over the long
    wire.

    Don't know about license leasing companies. Sorry...

    /daytripper
     
    daytripper, Mar 15, 2007
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  3. Not a lawyer, or even a company spokesman, just relating what I have
    heard in discussions about this kind of thing:

    Leasing a license is specifically forbidden by the license agreement.
    Running on a machine not at the company site, is also a violation,
    unless the remote machine is within the specified distance of the
    license host machine.

    The first makes sense. After all, Cadence makes money by selling people
    licenses. Myself, I find the second odd, but cannot remember the reason
    I heard given for it.

    Myself, I would call Cadence Sales and ask. There may be a license model
    that fits your need.
     
    Edward Kalenda, Mar 15, 2007
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  4. vtcad

    Poojan Wagh Guest

    I use Nomachine's NX. It works great, especially for layout (vs VNC).
     
    Poojan Wagh, Mar 15, 2007
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  5. vtcad

    daytripper Guest

    I know of at least five different service bureaus - including two of the
    largest in the New England area - that support home-based employees using the
    method I described. They pay (dearly) for the licenses, and I'd be surprised
    if their Cadence reps are unaware of such practices, and that Cadence actually
    cares where their customers seat their employees, as long as they're using
    legitimate, paid-for licenses.

    That doesn't address the assertion, of course.
    Anything is possible - including the irrational...

    /daytripper (and if you need more proof of *that*: GWB was re-elected ;-)
     
    daytripper, Mar 15, 2007
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  6. vtcad

    Zanan Guest

    I was going to add, some fabless companies rent spare machines (datacenter)
    from
    hosting companies. Obviously, the physical CPUs never leave the
    hosting-firm's (remote)
    site, but rather the customer's selected O/S and apps are loaded onto the
    rented CPUs,
    and billed on machine-time (and bandwidth.)

    Regardless, the ASIC-companies which operate VPNs for their employees,
    generally
    use a commercial metaware-server (Tarantella, Citrix, etc.) so all the
    EDA-applications
    run inside the company, but displayed on the remote-employee's (VPN) client.
    This
    arrangement sidesteps and legal complications. (Not ***cough*** Marvell,
    though, they
    don't believe in VPN, period...@!!#$!)

    Once I tried to run Cadence signalscan over an ssh-tunnel -- WOW, was that
    slow!
    (over 4 minutes for the intro-dialog to come up, over a 768Kbps DSL-link!)

    VNC-session (hosted by the Linux server which was running the EDA-tools)
    was slightly better. gotomypc was actually usable (though still sluggish),
    though that's
    a Windows remote-desktop app (so I had my office Win2000 PC left running
    24/7.)
     
    Zanan, Mar 16, 2007
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  7. I also work in Cadence using NoMachine NX and highly recommend it.
    It's at least 2x better than VNC, and 100x better than X11 over SSH.
    The free client/server package works great for up to 2 connections per
    server. There's a GNU implementation called freenx but I haven't
    tried it yet.
     
    mike.kneeland, Mar 19, 2007
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