CAD Translation reccomendation

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by watsons, May 23, 2005.

  1. watsons

    watsons Guest

    We are in need of translating designs from Autocad Inventor to
    Pro-Engineer. Could anyone reccomend a good translation company to
    handle such a conversion. We would expect all part/assembly and
    drawing relationships to be maintained as well as geometry to
    dimension.

    Thank you
     
    watsons, May 23, 2005
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    Caltex Guest

     
    Caltex, May 23, 2005
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  3. watsons

    Caltex Guest

    We translate files daily from Inventor to Pro/E, we use a translation
    program as it has a 'healer and repair' included which gives us the best
    results!
     
    Caltex, May 24, 2005
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  4. watsons

    Jeff Howard Guest

    Well Pro-E will open Inventor files ...

    Don't think so.
    Autodesk Inventor file extensions; *.ipt, *.iam, *.idw.

    *.iv is the file extension used by Open Inventor, etc. (VRML type data?).
    V20 (?, pre "encrypted") latest. No go after that.

    Neutral translations are the only option I'm aware of; no features,
    associativity of drawings to models, etc.
     
    Jeff Howard, May 24, 2005
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  5. watsons

    David Janes Guest

    http://www.okino.com/proe_tut.htm
    This one's been around for awhile and I've heard people swear by them, however, no
    direct experience.

    BTW, if Inventor has licensed GRANITE, "the interoperability kernel", you have a
    shot at exporting/import from/to Inventor to Pro/e. Also, if Pro/e has licensed
    the ACIS kernel, you've got a shot at getting Pro/e files into Inventor.

    However, I can say for a fact that SolidWorks' claim to directly open native Pro/e
    files is a come on. And unless we want to get into a semantic debate over what one
    "means" by opening native Pro/e files, we should look at what you get out of this
    process: is it a dumb solid (which is what your get out of SW) or is it a
    feature-based, parametric and associative solid model. No such thing exists in the
    world (unless it by arrangement between two software publishers). There is
    certainly no feature-based, parametric neutral format to use as the gobetween. In
    spite of a 10-year history of a STEP committee devoted to exactly that.
     
    David Janes, May 25, 2005
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  6. watsons

    Jeff Howard Guest

    ... Inventor can open Pro-E parts and assemblies directly

    Version 20 (?) and previous versions.
    No.

    There's a probable reason for that. Adesk is not at all hip to
    interoperability, even within their own family of products. Inventor was
    originally conceived as a competitor to Pro/E. The goal was to offer a
    convenient legacy data migration route. Thus no two way interoperability.
    I guess, too, that their failure to keep up with it means they've lowered
    the bar a bit; more worried about Alibre rustling their customers than
    trying to bait PTC's. 8~)
     
    Jeff Howard, May 25, 2005
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  7. watsons

    Jeff Howard Guest

    ... we should look at what you get out of this
    I've a casual curiosity re the few feature translators that are on the
    market. The name Proficiency comes to mind, but there are a few others.
    The interest is casual because they run in the 20 to 30K US range, if what
    I've read is correct. If you think about what it would take to translate a
    feature like Pro/E's VSS into another system the cost is understandable, I
    guess. (These systems don't claim to be bullet proof, either. Where a
    parametric feature can't be duplicated static geometry is created.)

    I have never even heard rumors of an associative to model drawing
    translator.
     
    Jeff Howard, May 25, 2005
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    Caltex Guest

    Send me an Inventor file I'll translate it to Pro/E for free. If it is
    to liking OK! Then you gotta pay for the remainder. BUT let me know the
    versions of both. Surfaces or solids? Going for CNC or not? Maybe quick
    repair, or if CNC deep repair!
    Whatta you gotta lose its' free?
     
    Caltex, May 25, 2005
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  9. watsons

    Jeff Howard Guest

    I'm not the guy you want to ask. The original post appears to be looking
    for someone that will re-model and re-draw native Pro/E. Is that what you
    are offering to do? Or are you just using this thread to advertise another
    service (translation to non-parametric, non-associative geometry)?

    Just FYI; IV to Pro/E translations of model geometry via STEP would not
    necessarily require any "healing", deep or otherwise. Translating drawings
    out of IV to DWG is another story.
     
    Jeff Howard, May 25, 2005
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    md1 Guest

    Try these guys:

    Thinkpath Inc., Dayton
    2800 E. River Rd., 3rd Fl.
    Dayton, Ohio, 45439, USA
    tel: 937.643.4100
    fax: 937.643.4110

    This Thinkpath location specializes in:
    Engineering Services
    On-Site Engineering Support
    Engineering Documentation & CAD Data Translations

    I've used them several times in the past & they have always done a good job.
     
    md1, May 27, 2005
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    David Janes Guest

    It took me a while to get smart and go to the source for the answer to the
    question: what kind of file do you get out of this translation process ~ a dumb
    solid blob ala IGES? or, a feature-based, parametric, and associative one. The
    Inventor Knowledge Base provided the answer.
    http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?id=2881491&linkID=4183228&siteID=123112
    http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?id=2882752&linkID=4183228&siteID=123112

    In short, you can directly open Pro/e files created prior to rel. 21 (2000i?) and
    features, history tree, parametrics are not preserved.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, May 27, 2005
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