CAD Newbee requires path to enlightenment

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by rk, Apr 16, 2004.

  1. rk

    rk Guest

    Hi, I've recently completed a 2d/3d course in AutoCAD, unfortunately
    for me the course was only geared to learning how to pass the exams.
    I'd like to know if there are any resources about the practical every
    day use of CAD.

    I have in mind scenarios to do with types cad use, useful strategies when
    working in cad, Dimensioning standards, 10 things you should know...
    A day in the life of... etc

    Does anyone here have a favourite site along these lines, or any tips
    for they like to pass on to this newbee...
     
    rk, Apr 16, 2004
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  2. rk

    longshot Guest

    hours & hours of cad time.. as far as standards .. they seem to be pretty
    different everywhere you go, depending on who you talk to. make sure you can
    build whatever you are drawing from the information on your screen & you got
    it whooped. good luck.
     
    longshot, Apr 16, 2004
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  3. rk

    rk Guest

    Thanks for this, but I was after the wisdom of your experience. A short
    cut to truth, an idea from one who has travelled the many paths of frustration
    and has found his Nirvana...

    Speak Cad masters, humble novice listens.
     
    rk, Apr 16, 2004
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  4. rk

    longshot Guest

    hours & hours of cad time.. as far as standards .. they seem to be
    pretty
    there's a lifetime of wisdom in that short paragraph, if you don't believe
    me, print it out & place it in a sealed envelope & open it in 15 or so
    years. Then my son, you will understand.
     
    longshot, Apr 16, 2004
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    Bigjobs Guest

    The one piece of advice I can give, and I give it full in the knowledge that
    I do not class myself as a CAD professional, NEVER, ever let someone tell
    you that what you do is easy and that you are easily replaced. If an
    employer thinks that, let them get someone else, and find yourself another
    job. It is not worth trying to show them that you are any good, they would
    never believe you, instead, cut your losses, and put your energies into
    finding an employer that appreciates you and your skills.

    Bigjobs
     
    Bigjobs, Apr 16, 2004
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  6. rk

    longshot Guest

    WOW. I was gonna say just about the opposite. .. do your job , keep your
    mouth shut , because you are easily replaceable. if you think you are under
    compensated then find a better offer. when you give your notice, your
    employer will make you an offer you cant refuse to keep you, if you are all
    that. I have seen about 20 stupid people come & go through this office, in
    the last 10 years. some were cad wiz that knew it all. if you act like that
    , you won't last long.
     
    longshot, Apr 16, 2004
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  7. My motto: use your head.
    My favorite resource: this group.
    My favorite site: see the sig below ; )
    My advice: when asking questions about CAD standards replace the words "CAD
    standards" with "underpants". If the question is then ridiculous, then the
    question is ridiculous.
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Apr 16, 2004
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  8. rk

    Bigjobs Guest

    Fair enough comment, although, my point stretches to any dicipline of any
    career really, and was more pointed to the fact that an employer that
    doesn't value their employees is not worth having.

    I started my working life as an engineer, both manual machinist and CNC
    programmer/operator. It took me seven years to learn that I was actually
    quite good at what I did, and that my empoyler didn't know what the frell
    they were talking about in respect to my abilities.It was all so that I
    wouldn't ask for a rise and he could get away with paying me what was sweat
    shop rates really. The killer is that I worked for my father's company, but
    that is another story altogether. :)

    I would never accept an offer to make me stay in a position when I have
    handed my notice in, in fact I have turned down 2 so far. The point being
    that if I am worth X now, why wasn't I worth X 3 months ago when I asked for
    a rise?

    And as for being a CAD whizz, I design the internals of offices and shops. I
    class myself as good at it, I can transfer my ideas to the screen in a
    modest amount of time in 3D, this is done with no mess and no fuss. I don't
    shout from the rooftops how good I am, (sorry this is going to sound so
    twee) I let my drawings and the time they are done in do my talking.


    The point I was (not very well either) trying to make was that, if you are
    any good, then find a job that you enjoy doing, for a company that respects
    you and pays you accordingly. Then you will indeed be a happy human.

    Bigjobs
     
    Bigjobs, Apr 16, 2004
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  9. rk

    longshot Guest

    Hmmm.. that's completely different if you stuck it out for 7 years.. :eek:) the
    guys I'm talking about come in & know so much already there's not room in
    their brains to learn to do it the way this company wants it done
    I work for an Industrial construction company , in the mechanical/ sheet
    metal dept & do a bunch of everything. Mostly I measure & make prints of
    anything a customer needs fabricated when they don't supply a print. that
    includes piping, ductwork, motorbases, structural, .ect.. I spend most of my
    time solving problems...

    the guy that trained me 10 years ago is now the president & I run this
    dept. Out of the 20 plus guys that have been hired to do this job, one
    remains.. the rest were sent to the shop as laborers & then quit or were
    fired.


    I have seen several that were very intelligent & were cad whizzes, they were
    the worst to try & train. I'd rather take a guy that used to be a carpenter
    or millwright & teach him autocad. common sense is hard to find
     
    longshot, Apr 16, 2004
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  10. rk

    Bigjobs Guest

    The thing is that i REALLY miss my job as an engineer, the job satisfaction
    was second to none, and whilst I love the job I do now, the problems I meet
    are not that difficult compared. All i need to do is know the building regs
    to a detail. then anything I can think of that fits into them is fair game.
    Funny thing is that my engineering background helps me no end, I only draw
    stuff that I know can be built.

    Another thing I didn't say previously, but should have done was this. I have
    always been open to learning from people that know more than me. I know that
    I don't know everything, but i can't forget when in my last job, they sent
    round the chief trainer from one of the best architects firms in Liverpool
    to teach me 3d. He showed me what he had brought, i showed him what I had
    already done. He left. Funny as frell.

    Bigjobs
     
    Bigjobs, Apr 16, 2004
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  11. rk

    Bigjobs Guest

    <snip>

    I am hereby asking permission to use this as my sig, giving credit to
    yourself of course. :)

    Bigjobs
     
    Bigjobs, Apr 16, 2004
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    Glen Appleby Guest

    1) CAD is a database that happens to have a graphical interface.
    CAD is NOT an electronic Etch-A-Sketch.

    2) Don't work too hard: let CAD do what CAD does.
     
    Glen Appleby, Apr 17, 2004
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  13. It's yours. Just promise to wash it once a week at least.
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Apr 17, 2004
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    me6 Guest

    The one piece of advice I can give, and I give it full in the knowledge that
    EXCELLENT excellent advice!!
     
    me6, Apr 17, 2004
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    Cadalot Guest

    Funny as frell.
    Is this a Farscape convention ?

    I'm just the opposite, started work as a draughtsman and ended up as a
    Structural Engineer. My mum would be shocked if she found out what I
    do for a living. She still thinks I play piano in a whore house!!!

    Check out my How to draw page at http://www.cadalot.co.uk

    Alan (Cadalot)
     
    Cadalot, Apr 18, 2004
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  16. rk

    Bigjobs Guest

    I amjust watching all the series in order, and it is sort of affecting me.

    Bigjobs
     
    Bigjobs, Apr 19, 2004
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