CAD grammer

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by dancingstags, Sep 15, 2006.

  1. dancingstags

    dancingstags Guest

    When dimensioning diameters the default on most CAD systems is to put
    the diameter symbol before it's measurement.

    I was always taught to do the same when making notations within text.

    However I have just shifted industries from Mechanical to Civil, and
    joined a new company, and am being picked up upon this habit with them
    saying it is incorrect.

    The contention is that you don't say a diameter 14mm, you say a 14mm
    diameter.

    My contention is that you also don't say pound 10 but you still put the
    symbol first, or radius 14mm, but still put the r first.

    Has anybody else come accross this?

    Which is more correct?
     
    dancingstags, Sep 15, 2006
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  2. One this kind of thing I would say the boss is (always) right.
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Sep 15, 2006
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  3. *On* this kind of thing I would say the boss is (always) right.
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Sep 15, 2006
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  4. dancingstags

    Dr Fleau Guest

    I comlpetely agree with you. It should be Ø14mm, and not 14mmØ, simply
    because mm are units of something, like pounds, acres, litres or decibels,
    and should go AFTER the number indicating the size of said unit. The
    diameter symbol is NOT a unit, it indicates the type of measurement used
    (Radius, Diameter, Arc, Angle, Profile, etc.) and therefore is more
    meaningful when placed BEFORE the number. It is also easier to understand
    with the diameter symbol first and units later rather than units and
    measurement type after. At least that's how they teach it in mechanical
    drafting school. Perhaps in architectural drafting school they teach it the
    other way around ?

    However, it is common practice in architecture and civil work to put the
    diameter symbol at the end. God only knows why they do this, but it only
    takes a few reads before you get used to it. I suggest you adapt to the
    methods of your company, not the opposite. Unless you want to nag everyone
    every time you see a 14mmØ and are ready to have customers call you saying
    they screwed up an assembly because they misunderstood your dimension. It
    happenned to me a few years back. Not pretty.

    It is fairly well known that engineers don't like architects, and
    vice-versa. It is not a Universal Truth, but ask around. Both misunderstand
    and underestimate the implications of the other's work.

    Dr Fleau
     
    Dr Fleau, Sep 15, 2006
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  5. dancingstags

    Dr Fleau Guest

    Oh. and it's "grammar".

    Dr Fleau
     
    Dr Fleau, Sep 15, 2006
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  6. dancingstags

    dancingstags Guest

    I'm very tempted to single handedly teach the entire architectural and
    civil engineering community how to do things right.

    At least I'll be able to warp my juniors to my will... I mean educate
    the juniors correctly.

    Thanks for the spell checking as well. I saw it, and kicked myself,
    just after hitting the post message button
     
    dancingstags, Sep 15, 2006
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  7. That's a pretty gross generalization. I love engineers. I would have married
    one if they weren't all so ugly...
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Sep 15, 2006
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  8. dancingstags

    Dr Fleau Guest

    "It happenned to me a few years back. Not pretty."

    Oh. and it's "happened"

    (insert head slap here)

    Dr Fleau
     
    Dr Fleau, Sep 15, 2006
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  9. Hi Ian.

    What's the radius symbol?
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Sep 16, 2006
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  10. Oh. That's a *letter* here in Canada, eh?
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Sep 17, 2006
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  11. UNCLE!@!

     
    Michael Bulatovich, Sep 17, 2006
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