Breaking News ... Accellera Verification Working Group Forming

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by HairyTheASICGuy, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. Read All About It at http://synopsysoc.org/thestandardsgame/?p=64!

    On her Standards Game Blog today, Karen Bartleson announced that
    Accellera formed a subcommittee to define a standard for verification
    interoperability.

    That is, Synopsys is stepping up to an industry leadership position to
    settle the VMM / OVM war.

    This is the right move to do this in Accellera because it gives us
    input into the process, rather than just the EDA vendors controlling
    the process for their own benefit. Karen points out in her blog that
    it was user pressure they heard that made them open up VMM. That's
    us!

    If you want to get your copy of the open VMM code that the new
    Accellera working group will use you will need to wait until they get
    the working group web landing page created. Karen did not say who
    would chair the group, but if you want her to pass your name on to the
    new chair, you can email her at karenb @ synopsys . com.

    I can't wait to get my copy of open VMM!

    Of course, Synopsys is telling us that they are just doing the right
    thing. But having them donate VMM to Accellera as the basis of a
    single methodology library opens the next question.

    How will Cadence and Mentor respond? Hopefully they’ll join the
    effort to add OVM features not found in VMM. Let’s keep the pressure
    on them.
     
    HairyTheASICGuy, Apr 25, 2008
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  2. HairyTheASICGuy

    BestInSoC Guest

    Your link to a Synopsys "like" web address appears real. But I doubt
    this is really Synopsys. And looking at the Accellera website, there
    is *NO* mention of this. I hardly believe it is true that Accellera
    has created this group and that Synopsys has donated VMM.

    Synopsys has spent years on VMM development and has been working on
    the second version of VMM that this makes absolutely no sense.

    Great spoof on the Synopsys website, that must have taken a lot of
    time to do to spew this disinformation.

    Synopsys will NEVER let their VMM source out since it requires special
    calls to proprietary simulator functions that they have kept as a
    trade secret so others are not able to build a system than can compete
    with them.

    Now go back to your cave and keep your dreams to yourself.
     
    BestInSoC, Apr 25, 2008
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  3. HairyTheASICGuy

    Jason Zheng Guest

    Not so fast. On the contrary, synopsysoc.org does belong to synopsys:

    $ whois synopsysoc.org
    <snip>
    Domain ID:D149040000-LROR
    Domain Name:SYNOPSYSOC.ORG
    Created On:04-Sep-2007 18:24:52 UTC
    Last Updated On:04-Nov-2007 03:48:07 UTC
    Expiration Date:04-Sep-2009 18:24:52 UTC
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    Registrant ID:GODA-037023796
    Registrant Name:Synopsys Hostmaster
    Registrant Organization:Synopsys, Inc.
    Registrant Street1:700 East Middlefield Road
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    Registrant City:Mountain View
    Registrant State/Province:California
    Registrant Postal Code:94043
    Registrant Country:US
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    Registrant Phone Ext.:
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    Admin Name:Synopsys Hostmaster
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    Tech Name:Synopsys Hostmaster
    Tech Organization:Synopsys, Inc.
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    On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:48:50 -0700 (PDT)
     
    Jason Zheng, Apr 25, 2008
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  4. HairyTheASICGuy

    BestInSoC Guest

    I stand corrected. I should have looked at whois first. This is a
    bold move to open VMM. Now the only question is why Accellera has no
    listed VMM project.
     
    BestInSoC, Apr 26, 2008
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  5. For the record, I am the real "Harry the ASIC Guy" whose blog post was
    "modified" by the originator of this thread, cowardly posting behind
    the email shield of "". You can find my
    legitimate blog at the following URL ... http://theASICguy.com. You
    can also find my original post on this topic at
    http://theasicguy.com/2008/04/24/breaking-news-accellera-verification-working-group-forming/.

    I do not know why "hairy" decided to take my original post, modify and
    add to it, and then publish under this obviously contrived email
    address. Is this a childish prank? Hairy, if you have something to
    say, please have the courage to do so using your real identity.

    I've tried to contact "hairy" by email twice about this but gotten no
    response. What really bothers me is that he is using an email address
    that is confusing my readers. If anyone can help me figure out who
    this person is or how to really get in touch with him at his "regular"
    email, then perhaps that would help. You can post to this newsgroup or
    contact me thru email: harry at theASICguy.com
     
    harrytheasicguy, May 11, 2008
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  6. HairyTheASICGuy

    Dave Rich Guest

    Because this committee is focused on defining interoperability between
    verification IP, not opening or standardizing the VMM.
     
    Dave Rich, May 12, 2008
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