Hello, I am looking for a routine that does the same thing that the express tools flatten does. The support services here do not flatten drawings for production because they say that the flatten program creates more problems by making its own layer names and block names, etc. I use a battery of lisp routines that fail when they encounter 3d Does anyone know of a program (lisp or vba) that can remove all 3d info from a draiwng? thanks for any response jm