Yes.....I have been a good boy and did a search on autoloading menus. Problem is....I couldn't find anything that helps me. I have got a couple of partial menus, that I would like to autoload when I start up autocad. Got as far as another lisp that autoloads the menus, but then I still have to insert them into the menubar. Is there a way to do that automatically ? Surely there has to be a way Leo