AutoCAD release 10 (Yes! I know it's older than the hills! :-) )

For my own pleasure and enjoyment, I like to assemble old computer systems so I can see how the operating systems ran. And to see whom M$ has driven out of business. Sometimes M$ just didn't play fair, as court cases will attest to.

Some of the systems I have include Atari and Mac for Motorola CPU's. Someday I'll scrounge up an Amiga or two. For Intel systems, I have DOS, Windows 3.11, Compaq's shell, Norton Desktop replacement shell, and OS2 Warp 4. I also have a copy of Geoworks for Intel. (Geoworks won a lawsuit agains M$ for not providing correct information about DOS and Windows so they could deal with compatibility items, but at the court system speed, it was too late to save Geoworks.) I also have Windows 95, 98, 2000 and XP Home. I used to have NT 3.51 but foolishly got rid of my copy years ago for this fun exercise. (I have a multiple boot older computer for some of the systems. I don't have a phyical computer for everything, I can't afford to rent space in warehouse! LOL!! )

In all cases, I also scrounge around for software for each system. (I love eBAY!!!) I stumbled on a surplus used electronics store here that had a copy of the R10 manuals, in the box. One of the manuals is even hard bound, if you can believe that. These days you don't even get the manuals with most software. :-(

This copy was never even registered as far as I can tell, the registration card is in the box. Plus the pamphlet for a free trial subscription for Cadence magazine.

But the software disks are missing. I'm assuming the program came only on disks. I've found no instructions for installation, but that aspect of the program doesn't phase me.

Does anyone in either of these newsgroups have any suggestions as to where I might find a copy of R10? In
English, of course. Or does anyone know someone or some firm that may still have a copy laying around?

Autodesk was no help at all. I got the impression they were afraid I just wanted a free copy to make a living with... Like an intelligent person was going to use 15 year old software to become a professional and make a living with it! I'd be surprised if it even ran on new hardware.

I'm more than happy to send a picture to anyone who wishes to confirm I have the manuals and registration card. This is not a binaries or pictures newsgroup so I didn't attach a photo. (Yes, some of use still know enough to follow the Usenet rules.)

Please feel free to contact me by email rather than post here.

Thanks.

Ken

 

Once, I made a comparison between AutoCAD LT version 2 (Equivalent to
version 12 of the full version of AutoCAD) and LT version '97
(Equivalent to version 14). I loaded on a Pentium system with Windows
'95.

I loaded a large drawing on each, and noted the time it took to
load. The old version 2 was MUCH faster. I've always wondered how
version 10 (get the '386 DOS version) would do on a modern system if
you could get it running.

Sometimes it seems we are not really making progress with computers.
The industry seems driven by the marketing departments of the
software vendors, and not the programming department.

Joe Dunfee

 

Another thing is the guys in programming have managers breathing down their
necks to get it out faster, and it's faster to write sloppy, bloated code
and change the "System Requirements" than to make it "yar".

 

I think MS has been doing this for years. And instead of finding and fixing
bugs, just write a new routine to go around the problem area with a new
section of code. If memory wasn't so cheap, we'd still see good tight code.

 

Right now I'd settle for any copy.

Ken

 

Yeah, and maybe if they wrote good code, memory wouldn't be so
cheap.....supply and demand.

 

I can remember running release 10 on a 286 with a memory card in it. The
extra memory (4 megs) was set up as a virtual disc. AutoCad was loaded into
the virtual disc and run from it. When we upgraded to 386 computers with
release 11, AutoCad slowed down considerably.
IIRC, release 10 lisp worked with later editions too.

 

I could upload one version (10_c2). About 1.45 Mb zipped.

Six disks with media ids (mids) like this.

MID: 1433
Machine: Independent
Product: AutoCAD
Release: 10_c2
Disk: Overlay 1 Disk
Format: 720kb
Date: Wednesday, October 26, 1988
Time: 14:34:35

There is no setup program but when all disks are copied to one folder works
fine at least in Win98SE DOS mode.

 

<assume Dana Carvey's vocal impersonation of the first President Bush>

Evens Goooooood...
Odds Baaaaaaaad....

<resume normal voice>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Holmes" <>
Newsgroups: comp.cad.autocad,alt.cad.autocad
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: AutoCAD release 10 (Yes! I know it's older than the hills!
)

 

-) )
eferences
The disks are long gone.
If you find a copy, you might also need a "dongle" to plug into the parallel
port. The story runs that when R10 came out, the Pentagon wanted a 'dongle
free' version, and this was the version that ended up floating around SE Asia.
You might find a copy in Kowloon, although the last I heard the earliest
version was R12/Win.

 

I seem to recall that there was also a bug in the DEMO version of
release 10 that allowed users to save in DXF format ....( in those
days you could not save anything in the demo version )

Opppps

 

I'm sure willing to try it out.

If you'd rather email it to me, that would be fine. I don't have any
limitations from my ISP as to attachment size.

Ken