AutoCAD loading "JUNK"

When I open or insert some drawings, I see this:

Loading AEC Base...
Loading AEC Project Base...
Loading AEC Schedule Data...
Loading AEC Architectural Base...
Loading ABS Base...
Loading Modeler DLLs.

I am running straight AutoCAD. The drawing I'm opening is a 2D detail, not generated in ADT or ABS. So, why is it loading all this junk? It takes forever (relatively speaking, of course!).

Can this info be "purged"? Is it tied to certain objects? Can I find out which objects? We know it has come from either ADT OR LDT just need a way to remove from files.

Thanks.

 

You inserted drawing data from a drawing created by the AEC package at one
time.
Even though you erase the drawing objects, the dictionaries still hang
around.
Superpurge (from Manusoft.com) will remove most of them (if you do a "hard"
purge).

generated in ADT or ABS. So, why is it loading all this junk? It takes
forever (relatively speaking, of course!).

which objects? We know it has come from either ADT OR LDT just need a way to
remove from files.

 

Already tried SuperPurge and it is not catching them. It spreads like a weed too. If you have a file open w/o this stuff loading, but then open one w/it then save the first it now has it too.

 

If you can email me the drawing, I can take a look
at it (you can email me by clicking on the mail box
on the page at the URL below).

There may be dictionaries in the drawing representing
styles used by ADT or another vertical, and they can
contain custom objects that load when the drawing is
opened.

 

Sent you a copy of a file along w/ issues. Thanks for taking a look at it. I will say spreads like a weed.

 

Clark,

When ADT adds an object to a drawing, it also adds dictionaries. Even if visible ADT objects,
no longer exist, the ADT object enablers in your version of ACAD will attempt to load the modules
that allow ADT to operate if they detect these dictionaries.

You can stop this autoloading behavior by using the options command. On the "open and save"
tab, under the ObjectARX Applications group, under Demand load ObjectARX apps, change
the setting from "Object detect and command invoke" to "command invoke" or "disable" and you
will no longer have to wait for the modules to load.

Nothing bad happens when these modules load other than the wait.

You may be able to purge these dictionaries by using the ExportToAutoCAD command or
AECobjExplode command and then qsave and quit and reload AutoCAD. Once the modules
are loaded, they may add ADT dictionaries to other drawings open in the session (I'm not sure).

For my copy of ADT2005, I couldn't stop the enablers from loading until I moved all
the AEC programs from the ACAD directory and from the shared directory.

Regards,
Doug

 

Doug,

Thanks for the post. I will say from experience now that once these load and you open and save other files they do then have the same issue. Sure spreads like a weed. I think AutoDesk needs to address this and have tools to address these issues. If I have ABS installed on my system but not using could it have started this in a file?

 

Yes. If you have ABS2005 (I presume its similar to ADT2005), then several plain AutoCAD
commands will trigger the ADT/ABS module loads. One of the most common commands
is the layer command. ADT loads its layer manager whenever layer is used. ADT also loads
whenever
you click on the extended ... tab of the properties window. Once loaded, it adds its
dictionaries and
starts controlling the drawing scale on every open drawing. This drove me crazy because I
had my
own system of scale management that I was comfortable with. The extra 30 seconds of
loading also
grated on me like sandpaper.

I ended up, as I said before, moving every AEC code module to an ADT subdirectory. Since
AutoCAD
couldn't find the modules, it couldn't load them. This solution requires a pretty mature
understanding of
ACAD and is not for everyone because it may affect any previous versions on the computer
and requires that profiles be changed.

If you use ABS alot, then don't worry about the dictiories. Just use ABS' system of scale
management and enjoy all the extra commands and perks of using the vertical. The little
bit of extra loading time isn't a big deal once you appreciate the extra's its giving you.
The AECmodify tools alone are worth the wait.

and save other files they do then have the same issue. Sure spreads like a weed. I think
AutoDesk needs to address this and have tools to address these issues. If I have ABS
installed on my system but not using could it have started this in a file?

 

I will say changing to command invoked helped w/ loading isues. It is very frustrating that we have not used ADT or ABS but have this stuff in our files. They are installed on a few of our systems since we have been testing, but done no work w/ them. All of a sudden we had these poping up in our symbols libraries. Very frustrating.

Thanks for your help.