Assura Question-Cap Extraction

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by George, Sep 24, 2004.

  1. George

    George Guest

    Dear all,
    I am using Assura to carry out extraction.
    In the 'Extraction' form, there is an option called 'Cap Extraction Mode'
    and we can choose 'coupled' or 'decoupled'.
    My question is what is the difference? I have read the manual, but i still
    not understand. How to conside the choice? Also, it said it will extracted
    the capacitance on SELECTED net, but how to select? It seem that there is no
    selection required.
    Before using Assura, i was using Diva and i only need to choose 'Cap ALL'
    then. So, i would like to share your experience on Assura.

    Thank you very much!

    Best Regards,
    Raymond
     
    George, Sep 24, 2004
    #1
  2. Raymond,

    Decoupled will take any capacitance between different nets and
    decouple it so that all capacitors are to ground. Obviously this is
    less accurate, but results in a smaller network and can be fine for
    simple modelling. Coupled keeps the capacitors between nets so that
    they are output between those nets (although if you specify a minimum
    capacitor value, smaller capacitors get decoupled and then summed up,
    and then filtered out if the total decoupled sum is less than the
    minimum).

    If you're choosing to extract the capacitance of selected nets, you
    can (in Assura 3.1) pick the nets from the schematic which it will
    extract. There's something on the form which shows that (I'm running
    Windows at the moment so can't quickly remind myself what the form
    looks like - to be honest the form is completely different depending
    on which Assura version you're running).

    There's far more flexibility with Assura RCX than Diva, which is why
    you have more choices.

    Regards,

    Andrew.
     
    Andrew Beckett, Sep 27, 2004
    #2
  3. George

    Paul F Guest

    Hi,

    In any layout, there will be parasitic capacitances from nets to
    underlying substrate, and from nets to other wires in the layout.
    Assura gives you the option of how you want to report these different
    capacitances.

    With "coupled" caps, capacitances between nets in your design will be
    extracted.

    With "decoupled", the capacitances are still extracted, but they are
    represented as a lumped capacitance for each net to substrate, rather
    than between nets.

    The number of capacitors extracted in "decoupled" mode will be smaller
    than for "coupled".

    Your design will dictate the right one to choose - if you are worried
    about cross-coupling between switching nets and high-impedance nets in
    a high-frequency design, "coupled" will be important to you.

    Assura allows you to either extract all nets, or to select those nets
    you want to extract, and ignore the others. You can either supply a
    list of nets you wish to extract, or you can select the nets from the
    schematic, when you set-up the RCX run (from the Virtuoso Layout GUI,
    go to Assura/Run RCX/Extraction, in Assura av3.1.2).

    If you use RCX option "selected nets proper" (also on the "Extraction"
    form) the netlist, (or av_extracted view), will contain all your
    drawn devices, plus extracted parasitics on the selected nets only.

    Good luck,

    Paul
     
    Paul F, Sep 27, 2004
    #3
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