Assura LVS output confusing value numbers

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by RickK, Mar 30, 2007.

  1. RickK

    RickK Guest

    Hi can anyone help?
    I'm fairly new and working my way through understanding error outputs
    until today.
    For example a gate size mismatch would simply output say, 5 versus 3.
    okay simple.
    In one schematic I have a multiple capacitors with a total value of
    14000pF
    Instead of seeing 14000 vs (some other number) i get weird numbers:

    Assura LVS runs okay with a device match but I have a capacitor
    paramater mismatch
    It reads:
    Schematic Instance: C1_0 Cap
    Layout Instance: I3/I46/avD1446_1 Cap
    VALUE 4.2e-08 vs 311.113e-08 differs by 25.8784%
    Schematic instance is the merged result of C1 0 C1 2 C1 1
    Layout instance is a merged result of I3/I46/avD1446_1

    why doesn't it just give me a simple output difference?
    Can someone tell me what this is?

    Thanks from a newbie!!
    Rick
     
    RickK, Mar 30, 2007
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  2. I assume in your Assura command rules is somewhere a command which
    tells Assura to merge caps if they are in parallel.

    Then your output is
    Sometimes this is wanted to reduce the devices in the netlists
    which has to be compared.

    Does this help?

    Bernd
     
    Bernd Fischer, Mar 30, 2007
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  3. RickK

    RickK Guest

    Hi thanks, but the merging of caps isn't the problem. it's the VALUE
    output

    My schematic cap is listed as 14000pF but the LVS value is listed as
    4.2e-08 vs 311.113e-08 differs by 25.8784%

    I reduced the size of my caps and was expecting to see an out put of
    something like 14000 vs "some new smaller number".

    How do I convert these machine? numbers?
    Is there a reference manual to cross check the numbers output?
    Hope someone can help.
    Thanks
     
    RickK, Mar 30, 2007
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  4. RickK

    S. Badel Guest

    My schematic cap is listed as 14000pF but the LVS value is listed as
    Maybe your deck does not compare the capacitance but some other value such as area ?
    What happened ?
     
    S. Badel, Mar 30, 2007
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  5. RickK

    RickK Guest

    Hmm... Okay i did some googling on these numbers, It looks like
    4.2e-08 is scientific notation for machine math because it cannot
    write 4.2 to the minus 8.
    If this is what I am interperting... then 4.2e-08 translates to
    0.000000042.
    But how do I translate that back to compare against 14000pF??

    Thanks.
     
    RickK, Mar 30, 2007
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  6. RickK

    S. Badel Guest

    Hmm... Okay i did some googling on these numbers, It looks like
    Yes (of course !)
    14000p(F) is 1.4e-08.

    Or, is you prefer, 4.2e-08 is 42000p(F ??)

    That is exactly 3 times 14000p(F)

    There must be a reason for this 3x factor, but it's either something wrong in your schematic, or it
    is due to the way your rule decks are written.

    Stéphane
     
    S. Badel, Mar 30, 2007
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