I am creting a circle element and an associative hatch. However when this circle is moved by the VBA app, the associative hatch doesn´t move with it. The associative attribute is set to TRUE and I run a REGEN and REDRAW command in the end of command. What is necessary to do for all the associative hatches follow their element transformations ? Obs:If I open the PROPERTIES WINDOW for this hatch element and simply close this windows, the hatch begins to move with the element - I can´t understand this !!! thanks, Tacito M Fieker [email][/email]