Any way to slant a circle

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by chunk, Feb 15, 2005.

  1. chunk

    chunk Guest

    Using Autocad LT 2002... Is there any way to draw a circle
    then skew or slant it? A person doing some work for me
    took a ellipse and tilted it but it is not the same as
    a skew circle. They said autocad could not skew a circle.
    Like if you took a box and pushed the top sideways to make
    a parallelogram, and within that box there was a circle
    and it skew along with the box. The result should not
    be a tilted ellipse. Hope I am making myself clear
    as I am not a cad expert.
     
    chunk, Feb 15, 2005
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  2. chunk

    gruhn Guest

    A person doing some work for me
    Admittedly not the best test and certainly not a rigorous mathematical
    proof, but...

    Quick checking in Photoshop, I'm not sure that you are correct. I think a
    skew circle may well be an ellipse. At first I intuited that you were right.
    If you don't _know_ that it is so, I suggest looking in to it.
     
    gruhn, Feb 15, 2005
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  3. A circle viewed on an angle is indeed an ellipse.
    The question might be whether acad gives you a true ellipse or not.
    I believe it has depends on the version, and very old versions
    used to approximate ellipses with splines.
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Feb 15, 2005
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  4. chunk

    chunk Guest

    It may be the same if you can position it correctly but to skew
    it, the bottom centerline needs anchored then skewed. If you make
    an ellipse I don't know how you find the orignal centerline since
    it will not be the same point as the lowest point touching some
    imaginary axis.
     
    chunk, Feb 15, 2005
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  5. chunk

    cadcoke3 Guest

    I think what you are wanting is the iso snap feature. This is a
    sub-command of the grid snap. It was made to facilitate isometric flat
    drawings.
     
    cadcoke3, Feb 15, 2005
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  6. chunk

    gruhn Guest

    It may be the same if you can position it correctly but to skew
    I get you. Yeah, I was only addressing the "is or is not an ellipse" part of
    what you wrote. I was focusing on "make the shape" but you have a specific
    need to "skew this circle" not "make some shape like a skewed circle". For
    that, I'm sorry but I can't help you. You could approximate it with a many
    sided n-gon and then stretching by different amounts to the side. That would
    probably give you something that looked nasty and would take a long time. If
    it is an ongoing need, it might be time to work out the math and write your
    own (sorry, I totally couldn't help with the math). If it is a one off need,
    you might be able to do it in Illustrator (or similar) and bring the shape
    into ACAD.

    I'm presuming that since I can't do it in ACAD it can't be done in ACAD LT.
     
    gruhn, Feb 15, 2005
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  7. chunk

    gruhn Guest

    I think what you are wanting is the iso snap feature. This is a
    Good question, OP, _why_ are you trying to make this shape?
     
    gruhn, Feb 15, 2005
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  8. chunk

    chunk Guest

    Uhhhh... I gotta go.... <runs away quickly>



    hahaha Just kidding... Making a logo.
     
    chunk, Feb 16, 2005
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  9. chunk

    gruhn Guest

    hahaha Just kidding... Making a logo.

    So, you should be working in Illustrator anyway... ;-)
     
    gruhn, Feb 16, 2005
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  10. chunk

    gruhn Guest

    good old days of HAND drwing see the attached in jpg format

    I had a drafting teacher who insisted that an ellipse _is_ four arcs. Not
    "could be poorly faked with" but actually really and truly _is_. I stopped
    listening to him and taught myself to draw.
     
    gruhn, Feb 16, 2005
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  11. An ellipse is 4 arcs. two equal arcs on the minor axis and two equal
    arcs on the major axis

    However here is something you can try for the slanting circle question

    - DRAW a square made of ploylines. You can use the REC command
    - Type PEDIT and select the square.
    - Type S for Spline.
    - Now click on the spline and stretch the grips to get the shape that
    you want.

    Visits my web site http://www.draftsperson.net/autocad/ for more
    tips

    Allan
     
    draftsperson.net, Feb 18, 2005
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  12. chunk

    Paul Turvill Guest

    No, it's not. An ellipse may be *approximated* by four arcs, but it is
    *only* an approximation.
    ___
     
    Paul Turvill, Feb 18, 2005
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  13. chunk

    gruhn Guest

    An ellipse is 4 arcs. two equal arcs on the minor axis and two equal
    No, it isn't.
    That works pretty good. It even gives the non-perpendicular axes that I had
    expected when I did it in my brain (rather than the PShop experiment.)
     
    gruhn, Feb 18, 2005
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  14. If you don't mind can you tell me from what book your examples came
    from.

    Thanks

    Patrick
     
    Patrick T. Caezza, Feb 18, 2005
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  15. chunk

    chunk Guest

    What if you didn't want to use a spline?
     
    chunk, Feb 18, 2005
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