Anglo-american standards

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Sinisa Knezevic, Jun 22, 2004.

  1. Where I could buy or download anglo-american standards relating to technical
    drawing?
    Especially I am interested is there any standard that unifies styles of
    drawing; for example: If one company use white color for main lines and
    other red color that takes a lot of time to accomodate drawings according
    to company's standard.
    I know that in Croatia and Europe there are not such standards but maybe
    there are in USA or Australia??

    Thanks...

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    Sinisa Knezevic, Jun 22, 2004
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    MichaelB
    www.michaelbulatovich.com

    It's one of those things that can't be avoided, although some have tried to
    devise systems
    to suit "everyone" hoping they would be widely adopted. CAD standards are
    like pants:
    One size won't fit everyone.
    No such thing in the "west" either. (Thank God.)
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Jun 22, 2004
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    Cadalot Guest

    Cadalot, Jun 22, 2004
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    Sporkman Guest

    Closest thing to an American standard is ASME/ANSI Y14.5, but it's
    really not a drafting standard and won't give you such things as
    standard layers/colors, fonts or "style". It's a dimensioning standard
    and closely parallels ISO standards.

    Mark 'Sporky' Stapleton
    Watermark Design, LLC
    http://www.h2omarkdesign.com
     
    Sporkman, Jun 22, 2004
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  5. Btw, is it much different than ISO standards?
    Soon I have to make some drawings for american company that will instal its
    equipment in Australia, so this information could be very useful..


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    Sinisa Knezevic, Jun 22, 2004
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  6. If you know, what about Australia, are their standards 'compatible' with BS?
     
    Sinisa Knezevic, Jun 22, 2004
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    Sporkman Guest

    Not greatly different, no. The biggest difference is the use of 3rd
    angle projection (in American ASME/ANSI standards) as opposed to 1st
    angle projection (in European ISO standards).

    'Sporky'
     
    Sporkman, Jun 22, 2004
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    Cadalot Guest

    Cadalot, Jun 22, 2004
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    B. W. Salt. Guest

    ISO might refer to 1st angle, but I think most U.K. companies use 3rd
    angle as a matter of course. It is the more logical of the two choices, I
    feel. I get somewhat frustrated looking at German motor/gearbox catalogues
    that show motor and box combinations and mounting arrangement in 1st
    angle. Head-scratching becomes the order of the day!
     
    B. W. Salt., Jun 23, 2004
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    designer Guest

    Absolutely right 3rd angle is what is used. irrespective of what ISO (or
    current BS) says.
    I explain it to young trainees like this :-
    You've just drawn the side elevation of a steam locomotive (choose a long
    one like a BR 9F)
    Now, which end do you want to draw the end elevation showing the inside of
    the cab at?
    They soon see the logic of 3rd angle projection.

    And by the way, what is the decimal seperator?
    Yes, its a " . " NOT a " , " whatever the standard says!
    "BS 4 FAT LADIES" , sorry BS8888 has lost its way.
     
    designer, Jun 23, 2004
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    B. W. Salt. Guest


    I blame the EU myself. Must do what they do on the other side of the
    channel :-(
     
    B. W. Salt., Jun 24, 2004
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    designer Guest

    Don't be defeatist.
    I think the problem lies with insufficient backing being given by British
    industry to BS so they have the backbone to kick some of this 'imported'
    stuff into touch.
     
    designer, Jun 26, 2004
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    B. W. Salt. Guest

    Me? Defeatist? You have to be joking. We went metric in 1972 (the company
    I worked for, that is!). Once had to do a job for a local ship repair
    company that still worked in fractions of an inch, to 1/128". Blew my head
    away (as one might say). It was always 3rd angle - American company...
    ....and they went metric. Good for them.
     
    B. W. Salt., Jun 27, 2004
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  14. Hehe. Yeah.....and I still don't get it!
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Jun 27, 2004
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    designer Guest

    I think I must just have beaten you to metrication.
    Metrication together with electronic calculators must have been the greatest
    productivity gain in the drawing office.
    Was able to consign Inskips Combined Tables to propping up the desk!
     
    designer, Jun 27, 2004
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    Dean Guest

    The Australian standard is a direct reproduction of the ISO standard. (even
    the number is the same)

    That said, I know of no Australian firm that actually uses it.
    But then I dont do mechanical work so.....

    Dean
    Australia
     
    Dean, Jul 1, 2004
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    Cadalot Guest

    OK Mike, what ROFLOMFAO mean ?

    And thats the way they use to teach it back in the mid - 70's ;0)
    It's only simple if you have a 3D mind, there are people out there
    that don't and need to be shown step by step.

    Alan
     
    Cadalot, Jul 2, 2004
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  18. Michael Bulatovich, Jul 2, 2004
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    CW Guest

    The easiest to visualize method I have seen is to imagine putting the part
    in a bowl. Slide it to the right. See which way it rotates. Slide it
    forward. See which way it rotates. The difference between first and third
    angle projection is simply which way the bowl is sitting. Right side up or
    upside down.
     
    CW, Jul 2, 2004
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    B. W. Salt. Guest

    Surely it's just a case of "Draw the plan view. Look at the object from
    one side. Draw what you see 'on that side of the plan view'." Third Angle.
    'Draw what you see on the other side of the plan view' - First Angle.
     
    B. W. Salt., Jul 2, 2004
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