acad2004 toolbar icons

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by hugh verr, Nov 10, 2004.

  1. hugh verr

    hugh verr Guest

    We are trying to get up to speed on ACAD 2004, but when we try to use
    our own menu, all the toolbar icons appear as question marks.

    They still work. I.e. if you click on one, it does what the little
    yellow message box says it will, but the icons don't appear.

    Did they change these? If so, how do I correctly link up our menu to
    the new toolbars?

    Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
     
    hugh verr, Nov 10, 2004
    #1
  2. Most likely your icons are not in the search path
    (Tools/Options/Files/Support file search path). You should also be
    aware that the icon size changed, and that the built-in icons are now
    rcdata, not bitmaps. If your toolbars use built-in icons you will need
    to modify your menu file to change the calls to rcdata. Look at the
    toolbar section of your acad.mns file to see the new format. If you
    drew your own bitmaps you will probably want to edit them to the new
    size so they don't get stretched.

    Martin
     
    Martin Shoemaker, Nov 10, 2004
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  3. hugh verr

    Pete Guest

    Open the mns file and do a find and replace. Replace ICON_ with RCDATA_
    Hit replace all. Done. I have custom 16x16 bitmap icons from 2002 that are
    fine in 2005. I think the problem occurs when you try to switch to large
    icons.

    I'm not sure about 2004 because I went from 2002 to 2005 but there are quite
    a few internal acad icons that no longer exist so you may still get a ? on
    some of them. The commands still exist but not the icons. The good thing
    is that 2004 and 2005 can now run side by side with 2002 so to get back the
    "discontinued" icons, I opened 2002 and saved the icons (in customize
    toolbars) as custom bitmaps into a 2005 support folder. But then I had to
    edit the mns and insert the bitmap names in place of the RCDATA_16_ICONS
    that no longer exist.

    Most AutoCAD upgrades are notoriously a major production even with all the
    cute migration tools AutoDesk provide. And even though they now include
    express tools on the install cd, AutoDesk went and dumped some of the
    commands even though they didn't come up with new ones that made those
    certain express tool commands obsolete. Some have been replaced (e.g.
    Multiple pedit) and hence obsolete, but not others. I had to go to the
    express tool support folder in my 2002 install, find the lsp routines and
    icons (if they existed) and copy them to the 2005 express folder. A couple
    of examples are layer unisolate and edit any text.

    Still worse are the new locations of the support files. They are buried in
    a path as long as your arm and most are no longer in an acad subfolder. I
    realize this was done to facilitate multiple windows users on the same box
    or network but what was the problem with simply creating different profiles
    for the multiple users and having their desktop shortcuts open acad with
    their profile? I guess there was too much chance for someone screwing up
    another's profile. Yeah I have shortcuts to some of the support folders,
    even custom toolbar buttons to take me there, but there are inevitably
    occasions when I have to drill down to China to get to a file. Not to
    mention that now I have to remember to back up not just the acad folder and
    subfolders but also c:\here\there\where\over here\down
    there\left\right\etc\etc\. I actually tried moving the whole mess to the
    c:\AutoCAD 2005\support\ folder but the tool palettes objected. Should have
    been an option on the cd for choosing support files location.

    By the way, for anyone that actually read this far, whenever I open acad, I
    have the startup dialog "open a drawing" appear. So far, so good. However,
    acad never remembers the folder where I last accessed a file. The list in
    the dialog is empty so I have to hit "browse". The Rememberfolders variable
    is set to 1 which means (according to help): "Specifies that the default
    path in each standard file selection dialog box is the last path used in
    that dialog box."
    Does anyone know how I can get the startup dialog to remember the last
    folder accessed?
     
    Pete, Nov 11, 2004
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  4. hugh verr

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    Until you reload the MNU file. :)

    Put your support files wherever you want, adjust your support file
    search path(s) as needed.
     
    R.K. McSwain, Nov 12, 2004
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  5. hugh verr

    Pete Guest

    I tried moving all the support folders, but the tool palettes didn't like
    that.
     
    Pete, Nov 22, 2004
    #5
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