Hi, I am using this in my acad.lsp:- (if (not (menugroup "Bob")) (progn (command "menuload" "C:/Menu/mymneu.mns") ;;only loads mns file and doesn't rebuild mnu everytime (menucmd "P1=+Bob.pop1") ) ) How do i tell is whre to locate the Bob pull down menu, at the moment it puts it before file? Cheers Bob T.