aargh.. section is not *cutting* a surface ... =(

ok,
thanks to help from local heroes i was able to follow the instructions
in the helpfile to make a section through a surface.

HOWEVER,
there appears no section-line in the drawing, even though I can make it
appera in tools-> modelling sections

You can see for yourself by surface extruding a circle and warping it
into a cone.
Make a datum plane right through its middle,
Make a Model/qlts section
create a new drawing and insert a drawing view using aforementioned section
and there it is: ONE circle.

I can't even explain how painful this is, I want to use this simple line
from this simple surface and draw a complicated parametric detail on it.
I know I can just thicken the surface, not only is this inserting extra
model complexity I don't need, but in the drawing I end up with a
crosshatch and all kinds of junk, suffice to say I *NEED* this.
(it looks extra painful when I turn on clipping and visibility of the
section in the model view, it shows me exactly what I want to show and I
just can't get it into a drawing)

anywho, help is appreciated

wzzl

 

sjeeesj :

Include surfaces in drawing cross sections by setting the
show_quilts_in_total_xsecs detail setup file option to yes.

in pro/detail helpfile under "To Include Surface Geometry in
Cross-Sectional Views"

wzzl

 

take one step forward; take one back.
It appears to be impossible to snap to the sectionline that appears in
the drawing, or offset that particluar line for that matter.

one word:
WTF!

wzzl

 

correct, an area cross section is as palpable as any other drawing entity.

A workaround like creating an intersection line in the model is
cumbersome (imagine a dome triangulated with 360 individual triangles,
created with a nifty pattern) and makes me feel stupid, where we bought
this fine piece of software to be smart & parametric.

wzzl

 

: You can see for yourself by surface extruding a circle and warping it
: into a cone.
: Make a datum plane right through its middle,
: Make a Model/qlts section
: create a new drawing and insert a drawing view using aforementioned section
: and there it is: ONE circle.
:
The problem, always, with surfaces is that Pro/e needs an enclosed volume so that
it knows what is inside and what is outside the surface. When you cut this cone,
you know, absolutely, irrefuteably, that the negative curvature of this circle
means 'inside' the section. If the entire surface is not a closed volume, Pro/e
doesn't understand that at all. Good programming would dictate, in such
circumstances, that the user be asked to specify in what direction 'inside' lies.
And a nice 'flip arrow' button, in case the default is in the wrong direction. You
have neither, you have only the impossibility of sectioning outside the circle and
of Pro/e deciding whichiswhich. Create your extruded circle/warped cylinder with
'capped ends'. Put this in your drawing and see if it can't figure out what is
'inside' the section.

David Janes

 

Oooh joy !

by setting "crossec_type=new_style"
one can snap to the section line of a surface !

BUT, using 'new_style" the rest of the model is not visible, only when I
set the view to "hidden line" it appears, strange.


wzzl

 

might want to invest in installing linux, the odd behavior I have
occasionaaly is almost entirely gone in linux
my system is a dell 5150 nvidia fxgo5200
debian unstable kernel 2.6.4 (2.4.25, 2.6.2 etc)
nvidia 5336 drivers
xfce 4 desktop (talk about lightweight !)
ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net for the wireless lan

When installing wildfire on debian you might get an openmotif issue
(needs 2.3 if I remember correctly), apparently redhat (which is the
distribution of choice by ptc) uses an openmotif version that debian
deems volatile, which I resolved by either looking for a deb file on
apt-get.org or upgrading to testing/unstable (which is still more stable
than windows)

debian + xfce + openoffice + mozilla + wildfire = production beast !

Oh well, doesn't really matter what you use, I hear redhat is pretty
good too lately with the new fedora core, which comes with debian-style
package management tools.


wzzl