A real solidworks question, lol

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by pete, Jan 23, 2005.

  1. pete

    pete Guest

    Scenario
    SW2005 sp 0.1
    Pdmworks
    task pane
    5 parts a,b,c,d, and e
    One sub-assembly containing parts a and b
    One sub-assembly containing parts a,b,c,d
    One main assembly containing sub assemblies 1 ,2 and part e
    ALL part and assembly files are open.
    I have the main assembly in view and decide to alter part b
    I ctrl tab to the part b and alter it.
    I then get a message asking if I want to update the referenced documents.
    I click the yes button.
    now here is the outcome, when looking at the task pane, the icon for the
    part b, tells me that the part is newer than the vault, this makes sense.
    The icons for the two sub-assemblies and the main assembly still show that
    they are equal to the assemblies in the vault!
    Hold on, did I not agree to update references documents?
    If I then ctrl tab to a sub assembly, it tells me, that it has changed and
    needs a rebuild, only then does the icon in the task pane change to show
    newer than the vault.
    Now take this to a main assembly that has 500 or more parts and
    sub-assemblies with a microswitch in 20 sub-assemblies, and the problem gets
    massive!
    Take a sub-assembly of a micro switch, same switch, but I need to add a
    custom property, that part has now changed, there is that update references
    message again!
    I have to open every sub-assembly in turn to rebuild it, and then the main
    assembly.
    This is bad enough when I have built it, but what happens if my partner
    opens it and changes a part, he is not going to know what to open and
    rebuild.
    But wait, there is more!, now every sub-assembly is newer than what is in
    the vault!
    All this just for a custom property addition, Ahhhhh!
    What am I doing wrong?
     
    pete, Jan 23, 2005
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  2. pete

    matt Guest

    If you haven't actually changed something in a subassembly, don't worry
    about it. Changes to an assembly include adding incontext references,
    adding or removing assembly features, component patterns, assembly layout
    sketches, mates, add/remove instances of parts/assy, new parts/assy, etc.

    In the case you described, you only made a change to a part, and unless it
    changes the filename/part number, you didn't make a change to the assembly,
    only the part.

    If you revved every assembly and drawing every time a part revved, you'd
    never get anything done.

    If you just rev the part and not the assembly, the only thing that's really
    not going to be perfect is the preview of the assembly or lightweight
    assembly. It will show with the old version of the part until the part is
    fully loaded.

    So I guess the answer is that you're not really doing anything wrong, other
    than getting a little nervous.

    matt
     
    matt, Jan 23, 2005
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  3. pete

    pete Guest

    Thank you matt, I was wondering if I was doing something wrong or my sw was
    going tits up!, lol
     
    pete, Jan 23, 2005
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  4. pete

    pete Guest

    I now know what the problem is!
    The task pane file explorer is not refreshing it's view automatically.
    If you refresh the file explorer view, you can then see, what has changed.
    Maybe a silly question, but why not have this file explorer view
    automatically update, when you save a document???
    An enhancement request I think. :)
     
    pete, Jan 23, 2005
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  5. pete

    pete Guest

    Can someone make an API for this??
    I know nothing about API, so please help me.
    Thanks
     
    pete, Jan 23, 2005
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  6. pete

    P. Guest

    Of course Pete only changed a part. But did SW change anything that the
    assemblies need? For example:

    1. Face numbering in the part changed (unknown to Pete). Then some
    mates be changed in any of the assemblies that use this mate.

    2. He did a drawing of a sheet metal part and added a flat pattern
    view. This will update the drawing or assembly with a new
    configuration.
     
    P., Jan 24, 2005
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  7. pete

    pete Guest

    The only thing I changed was the colour of the part.
     
    pete, Jan 24, 2005
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  8. pete

    pete Guest

    Opps!
    A custom property on the first go and a custom property on the second go.
     
    pete, Jan 24, 2005
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  9. pete

    P. Guest

    That will do it.
     
    P., Jan 25, 2005
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  10. pete

    Eddie Guest

    Just thought I'd throw this in to muddy the waters.
    Although you have mentioned the simple addition or modification of a
    "custom property", if the "custom property" was to change a Material of
    a part, then is the "Form, Fit or Function" of the part changed?
    One could argue for Function. Could be cut-n-dry if the material
    appears on a BOM.
     
    Eddie, Jan 26, 2005
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