A Circle Defines a Plane...So

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Bo Clawson, Feb 13, 2004.

  1. Bo Clawson

    Bo Clawson Guest

    Is there some reason a user should not be able to Insert a plane with
    an additional choice by selecting a circle to define the plane?

    There is one specific reason I've wanted to be able to do this for
    things such as the intersection of 2 cones which is common in typical
    round molded parts where 2 cores meet. It is always possible to do a
    workaround, but I wonder about simplifications.

    Is there another magic method to getting a plane to be defined &
    linked to where a circle exists with a single step? Obviously this is
    where no plane surface inside or outside the circle can be selected.

    Thanks - Bo
     
    Bo Clawson, Feb 13, 2004
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  2. Bo Clawson

    matt Guest

    There are a couple that I can think of, but none as nice as just selecting
    a circle or an arc.

    You could select the temp axis through the cone and the centerpoint of the
    circle, which would give you perpendicular to curve at point. Or you could
    add two points non-colinear with the center and make a 3 point plane (lines
    and points). If you have a non-180 deg arc, you could select the endpoints
    and the center, or if you have an elipse (conic section), you could also
    pick 3 pts.

    I agree, though, I've often wished for some additional ways to make planes.

    matt



    (Bo Clawson) wrote in
     
    matt, Feb 14, 2004
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  3. Bo Clawson

    Bo Clawson Guest

    Well these sorts of improvements are the type that would speed up work
    without code bloat & tricky error checking code conniption fits.

    We ought to suggest easy new plane creation options to the SolidWorks
    crew.

    Bo
     
    Bo Clawson, Feb 14, 2004
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  4. Bo Clawson

    Bob Guest

    I think SW needs to open a 5th grade book on Euclidian geometry and make use
    of what is taught of the construction of a plane. This is not higher math!
    We now have to choose SW geometry rather than something that was thought of
    2,500 years ago. Come on SW, surely you've had time to learn that by now.
     
    Bob, Feb 14, 2004
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  5. Bo Clawson

    MM Guest

    Cliff,

    Everything that is a true arc, in SW, is represented as such in IGES.
    Parasolid isn't a neutral format, just the core geometry. But you already
    knew that.

    Regards

    Mark
     
    MM, Feb 14, 2004
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  6. Bo Clawson

    Jim Sculley Guest

    I don't think that will work with a circular edge though. Unless I've
    missed the ability to select the centerpoint of a circular edge
    somewhere....

    Jim S.
     
    Jim Sculley, Feb 15, 2004
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  7. Bo Clawson

    Bo Clawson Guest

    How about we ask Solidworks to put up the following for consideration
    for creating a plane:

    1. Any 2D Circle or Arc
    2. 2 parallel lines (a very common ocurrance in machine design)
    3. A plane defined as being midway between 2 other parallel planes
    (not a must have, but convenient)
    4. ...add any others

    Bo Clawson
     
    Bo Clawson, Feb 17, 2004
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  8. Bo Clawson

    Arlin Guest

    How about we ask Solidworks to put up the following for consideration
    You can just select one line and an endpoint of the other... unless you
    are talking about 2 axes, which do not have endpoints.
     
    Arlin, Feb 17, 2004
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  9. These are excellent suggestions. As a workaround for #3, you
    can use the "Mid Surface" command if you have to faces (I
    think they need to be a solid, or maybe it's a bug?).

    Mike Wilson
     
    Mike J. Wilson, Feb 17, 2004
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  10. Bo Clawson

    JJ Guest

    If it is not problematic to program, I would see an advantage in allowing
    plane creation to use any planer edge or sketch, i.e. conic section or
    spline, rather than just arcs.

    JJ
     
    JJ, Feb 17, 2004
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  11. Bo Clawson

    Bo Clawson Guest

    Indeed axes work in assembly solids is where it is most convenient
    when 2 solids parts with axes (0ften round rotating parts on
    orthogonal planes) need more detail that is revealed or assembled on
    the plane between the axes.

    Bo
     
    Bo Clawson, Feb 18, 2004
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  12. Bo Clawson

    Bo Clawson Guest

    Well if it is a conic edge, it has to be the special condition where
    the edge is planar. Most conic intersections result in intersection
    edges that are non-planar. I may misinterpret the desired end you
    have in mind, though.

    Allowing any planar object to define a plane sounds like a positive,
    though I can see a plane being so defined and then the shapes
    generating the planar surface changing and then the shape is no longer
    planar resulting in a real geometry mess.

    Bo
     
    Bo Clawson, Feb 18, 2004
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  13. Bo Clawson

    JJ Guest

    I meant planer sections only but you raise a good point about the potential
    for something to become nonplaner.

    JJ
     
    JJ, Feb 18, 2004
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