3d scanning for the marine industry

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by indieraid, Mar 1, 2007.

  1. indieraid

    indieraid Guest

    i am requesting help regarding the purchase of a 3d scanner and/or
    digitizer for use in small speedboats, sailing yachts etc (you get the
    size). I am very concerned about spending money on something that will
    not help me. Does someone know how much accuracy is important, and how
    much accuracy can i get, when referring to a 33ft (10m appx) speedboat
    hull? i had arleardy proposals for buying imetric, Konica Minolta and
    Leica scanners i am not sure though which one i should choose as they
    work in different ways and they dont give me the appropriate answers
    as far as large object mesh creation accuracy is concerned. Please
    note that i already own delcam copycad which from what i read is user
    friendly and rather quick in completing meshes. i am also in search
    for a designer (CAM) probably a freelance one. Thank you very much in
    advance...P Ch.
     
    indieraid, Mar 1, 2007
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    Cliff Guest

    And in the old days they probably used such things
    as manual splines .....
    Look at the history of shipbuilding.
     
    Cliff, Mar 1, 2007
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    Cliff Guest

    Cliff, Mar 1, 2007
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    MM Guest

    Are you trying to duplicate an existing design ? ( I guess so) MAN !! that's
    going to be a ton of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for anything that size. Car makers
    scan models all the time, but there's quite a bit of post scan CAD, CFD,
    etc., work before they're ready to make tooling. I would imagine that the
    equipment and sofware they use cost millions.

    Today (at least here in Newport Beach CA.) boats are designed in 3D CAD, and
    the forms (bucks) are machined on huge five axis routers.

    Another thing to think about is accuracy vs scale. An existing hull is going
    to have a bunch of geometric errors, even if the form was perfect. These
    might be raised or lowered areas as much as .100" or more deviant from the
    mean. The scanner is giong to add "this" error to it's own, and you'll have
    a bit of a mess to clean up. If you're scanning a CAD/CAM generated form,
    you'll do better, but why not just model it ?


    Mark
     
    MM, Mar 2, 2007
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    Ben Eadie Guest

    Ben Eadie, Mar 2, 2007
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    ekjohnso Guest

    I use to do 3d digitizing for an automaker back in Detroit. Costs
    were rather high back in the late 90's but have dropped considerably.
    Depending on what you want to do there are several options. I would
    look into http://www.gom.com specifically http://www.gom.com/EN/company/contact/north.america.html
    for sales guys. I used to deal with the Capture 3D guys out of Novi,
    MI.

    Accuracy varies as well, we were capable of 50 micron tolerances,
    although a boat hull will require much less. The packages they offer
    dump out stl files along with others allowing you to cut from their
    datasets. There are several other packages out there that will let
    you hone your data files... look into ParaForm, and PolyWorks. I
    think both are still around.

    Hope this helps some.

    Erik
     
    ekjohnso, Mar 5, 2007
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    dirdim Guest

    Please see www.directdimensions.com for all 3D scanning and reverse
    engineering solutions. 12-year experts in all types of projects including
    marine, industrial, aerospace, etc. We use all the scanners and all the
    softwares so we can either do the projects for you or recommend, sell,
    train, and support you with the most appropriate solutions.

    By the way - not likely the GOM system is appropriate for a 33ft hull
    project. Way to expensive for the accuracy level that you need for the
    hull. Call us - we have excellent less expensive solutions. And Paraform
    is long gone! PolyWorks is great, so are Geomagic and RapidForm - the trick
    is determining which is best for your apps - this is our specialty - call
    us.

    Michael
    --
    Direct Dimensions, Inc.
    rapid solutions to 3D problems...
    410-998-0880 ph

    www.directdimensions.com
     
    dirdim, Mar 11, 2007
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