2007 not starting!

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Not Necessarily Me, Jun 15, 2006.

  1. Just installed Acad2007 and after a reboot the program is not starting. A
    check of the Task Manager shows an Acad.exe process, AdMigrator.exe and
    AdskCleanup.000 running with the AdMigrator.exe using 99 percent of the CPU
    cycles. Is this a one time thing (1st start) or is my install hosed?

    Running on Win2k pro, 1gb ram, Athlon 54 3400, Pny Quadro fx500

    Thanks
     
    Not Necessarily Me, Jun 15, 2006
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    dstockton Guest

    Is Win2K up to date? Is IE up to date? All of the Autodesk 2007
    products require up to date Windows components.
    Ignore the "Minimum Requirements" as stated on the web site. I do tech
    support and I can tell you that ACAD 2007 is going to be flakey on
    Win2k. It is really made to run on Win XP Pro SP2. That is because it
    needs and tries to load .NET 2.0. That component will not install
    correctly if the OS is not up to date.
    Your best bet would be to put it on a Win XP Pro SP2 PC that is totally
    up to date. And I don't mean Win XP Home. The "Home" in the name pretty
    aptly describes the capability of the OS.
     
    dstockton, Jun 16, 2006
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    SteveK Guest

    I have CAD 2007 on Win XP Home SP2. Works like a charm 100%.
    Must install .NET Framework 2.0 before it will run though.
     
    SteveK, Jun 18, 2006
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    JG Guest

    The differences in Home and Pro are irrelevant to Cad when used by one
    person. The differences are in 2 areas only, networking, and
    administration. XP Home cannot join a domain and does not have all the
    administration features used by IT to protect the computer from careless
    or unethical users. Some of those latter features become available in
    safe mode only, which limits their value.
     
    JG, Jun 19, 2006
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    dstockton Guest

    JG has missed the point. While he may be running AutoCAD successfully
    on his little home network, in a corporate environment it causes
    nothing but problems. XP Home is meant for exactly that, home. I do
    tech support for a living, supporting both Microsoft and Autodesk
    products. I have managed up to 80 AutoCAD users and their workstations
    in one company that migrated from Windows 2000 to XP. One idiot in IT
    even suggested we use Home on certain workstations just to save a few
    bucks. He doesn't work there anymore, not just because of that stupid
    suggestion, but many more. In a work environment with a network Home
    will be nothing but problems. A small peer to peer network works for up
    to three people. Add more than one print device and problems ensue.
    Count on one of those machines to be a file server and you get more
    problems. If you keep your client files on your local hard drive you
    better be backing up frequently, because you will eventually lose that
    hard drive.
    That is why Pro has all those features that Home does not. Pro allow
    you set up a domain. Servers are cheap and domains are pretty simple to
    set up.
    Now JG may start the old tired rant about Microsoft downgrading Home
    just to be able to charge more for Pro. People can cry all they want,
    the prices are what they are. If you want a good running CAD
    workstation on a network you have to have Pro.
    I get many calls from Autodesk clients that try to run their Autodesk
    products on Home and have nothing but problems. Most of these have to
    do with the fact that their "Home" computer is being used for too many
    other things that it shouldn't, like AIM, games, photo editing, email,
    internet. Autodesk products have become resource intensive. Most people
    that have XP Home on their PC have done so to save a few bucks over the
    price of really good workstation and pay the price in performance
    because they want to do everything on that one machine. Autodesk
    products will not work optimally in that type of setup. And a business
    should not be set up that way.
     
    dstockton, Jun 20, 2006
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    JG Guest

    Won't start a rant about Microsoft downgrading Home to be able to charge
    more for Pro since it isn't relevant why they separated the OS into
    multiple products. Almost everything you say about Pro in anything but a
    small network is true. (Multiple print devices work fine on "Home" if
    you use one printserver for multiple printers or install the printers as
    shared devices, as I can show since we are a 4 user network with a 4
    printer printserver essentially acting as 5th user) Original post never
    said anything about running in a large network. XP Home starts falling
    apart after 5 users, and slowdowns in network access will show up at
    that point. Try showing network places and be prepared to wait. Also
    Home is not suitable for network licenses. All of this relates to lack
    of support for domains.

    As for backing up, we have thousands of relatively small files
    redundantly placed on all machines on the network and use external
    drives scavenged from computers that were either upgraded or had failed
    for other reasons, for catastrophe backup (We're in Florida and
    hurricanes have become a fact of life in the last few years.) Each
    person is responsible for their own files with no modification of
    original files by anyone but the original operator, but we use each
    others files solely for reference since we each have different
    functions. Any modifying use of someone else's files is saved separately
    with a new name. We can do that here since only 2 people use cad and the
    other 2 only extract data from the files that our proprietary software
    creates. Of course even we have our share of problems when one of the
    other senior people in our department decides that he wants more room on
    his drive (he's using less than 20% even with "private personal" files
    (aka porn) so why he thinks he needs that space I can't figure out) and
    deletes .dll files because he doesn't know what they are. But even then
    work files can be retrieved.

    We have had 2 major hardware failures in the last year and lost no
    files. It seems like the hard drives are outlasting the mainboards or
    cpus in the current generation of mass-produced machines. Mostly I have
    been upgrading computers so that all machines except one are dual core
    dual monitor setups, and that one is running an old version of windows
    since that user uses an incompatible program that is out of date, but he
    is the same senior person who deletes dll files and he is adamant about
    not changing. We get away with mass-produced machines since we use our
    proprietary software for all our 3d work and since it is limited to our
    industry needs it is quite lean and speedy.

    As to the issue of a "Home" computer having other software installed,
    the only thing keeping that software off of a "Pro" computer is the IT
    department, and if you are big enough to have a full-time IT department
    you certainly are penny-pinching to not use "Pro" and your network is
    certain to be out of the range of capability of "Home"

    The only reason other than cost to use "home" rather than "Pro" is
    speed. "home" is very slightly faster due to the slightly smaller code
    overhead, but that difference is not really significant unless you are a
    gamer where every cycle of speed is important even if it results in
    stability issues.

    But the real issue here is whether Autocad works on the various versions
    of XP, and it does, whether it be Pro, Home or even Media Center. If
    the original poster can't get Autocad to start, it is not a version
    issue and he/she should not be led on a wild goose chase to solving the
    problem. Wiping the drive to install XP Pro would eliminate conflicts
    and might fix the issue, but upgrading without wiping is highly unlikely
    to have any effect.
     
    JG, Jun 20, 2006
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    JG Guest

    Looking back at original message I read he is using Win2k. That was a
    product that was worse than WIN ME for driving users up the wall with
    compatibility issues, even though it was significantly more stable.
    Given that he has to change OS to get problem resolved, and deducing
    that if he uses Win2k he is in a major network situation, then certainly
    should go with XP PRO. But if he doesn't actually use or need all the
    networking functions of 2k, then he can save money and go with HOME
     
    JG, Jun 20, 2006
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  8. Jeff,

    See if you're running into the same problem that I am, I am settings up
    a user with AC2007 and its not starting in his account. But if I
    create another account on the computer it will start up just fine in
    that user account.

    Perhaps its a registry problem with that one user.

    -Tucker
     
    rallymaster23, Jun 22, 2006
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