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Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by RaceBikesOrWork, Aug 31, 2006.

  1. RaceBikesOrWork

    bobzee1 Guest


    as much as we would all like to believe that windows is bad because of
    great market share and intense scrutiny, it just simply isn't the whole
    truth.
    windows just isn't and wasn't built very well. since windows is used
    on so many computers and is under such scrutiny, only gives us more
    reason to demand that it be better!

    windows isn't hard because we are used to it. familiarity is the key.

    bob z. only replied to this because of the "...we're sick of your
    [you're] same old story." bob z. isn't sick of it. bob z. likes it.
    bob z. enjoys turmoil.
    :~)>

    bob z.
     
    bobzee1, Sep 1, 2006
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  2. RaceBikesOrWork

    Bo Guest

    Pot, both platforms work, and so do others. I am not advocating one
    platform, and indeed use whatever 'works'.

    Don't take things so personally, as the original poster writing is not
    used to doing a lot of Sherlock work with his Windows system, judging
    by his straightforward comments.

    I have never had SolidWorks "Crash, Crash, Crash", but one can imagine
    that if it is happening, and someone is not as well versed in Windows,
    then take an upgrade path that involves minimum risk and learning
    curve, with maximum chance to make SolidWorks run right.

    Getting good work done with minimum effort is an admirable way to run a
    shop. That is all I want to do. Simplification is one of those things
    that goes against the grain of "All In One" hardware and systems.
    People tend to "pile on" things on their computer, thinking they will
    be able to keep everything running fine, when in fact we see too many
    problems with that approach.

    Microsoft is apparently modularising their new OS, Vista, so MS sees
    the value in trying to simplify in its own way. Microsoft themselves
    has just started recommending reformat and reinstall of Windows as the
    best solution when Malware takes over, as opposed to malware removal
    tools. Hence, I really don't see my comments as being very far from
    what Microsoft already recommends.

    Thus, I might even be considered a Microsoft booster! My Win XP Pro
    does NOT do CTDT.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Sep 1, 2006
    #22
  3. Straighforward is a good indicator of what?

     
    RaceBikesOrWork, Sep 1, 2006
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  4. RaceBikesOrWork

    Bo Guest

    Sorry, it was Boeher who noted "New to this game, what is a CTD?"

    Too many posts, too few neurons active before a big holiday.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Sep 1, 2006
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  5. RaceBikesOrWork

    FlowerPot Guest

    It sounds like he is saying you aren't too good with computers.

    He seems impressed with his own skills, though.
     
    FlowerPot, Sep 1, 2006
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  6. RaceBikesOrWork

    bobzee1 Guest

    but, isn't 'desktop' one word? bob z. did a search in this newsgroup
    and found CTD mentioned over 200 times and CTDT mentioned less than a
    hundred.
    hmm... something to think about!

    please take no offense by this reply. bob z. holds no preference of
    one over the other. bob z. was just curious, so he looked.
    :~)>

    bob z.
    p.s. everybody's working for the weekend...
     
    bobzee1, Sep 1, 2006
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  7. RaceBikesOrWork

    Bo Guest

    Wrong impression.

    I readily admit I only acquire the skills I need to get the job done.
    I am not particularly impressed with OS management skills. Some people
    get a kick out of it, and thats fine for them. I can not administer a
    workgroup and do intense technical Windows management as I don't have
    the time to learn. I can't make money that way. Lots of people are in
    the same boat.

    I AM VERY IMPRESSED with designers who can turn out creative problem
    solving new product designs. That is impressive. I've seen a lot of
    terrific SolidWorks models (& others) that are impressively creative
    over the years.

    Different people, different strokes, different answers, more blokes
    creating terrific designs.

    This Usenet group offers a wide array of hints and tips, and that is
    what is great, because so many different solutions come to the table.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Sep 1, 2006
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  8. RaceBikesOrWork

    FlowerPot Guest

    I think what I am getting at is that you are a one-topic poster. You
    only post on how much MS sucks. OK, we get it. Move on.

    As for designer creativity, in my view it amounts to how closely you can
    mimic current trends or parrot what you read in the magazines or art school.
     
    FlowerPot, Sep 1, 2006
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  9. RaceBikesOrWork

    Bo Guest

    Good comments. MS doesn't suck. Don't think I've used that term,
    though XP Pro has caused me problems in the past, which were
    frustrating.

    OS: I'ld have to agree that MS's XP Pro now runs as good as anything
    I've used, with very minor exceptions, which every OS has. SolidWorks
    caused me to learn how to deal well with XP, and its great for what I
    use it for now.

    Design: I tend to look at designs for creative functional &
    manufacturability capabilities, as opposed to esthetics, as that is the
    arena I work in. Particularly I am looking at the designs which are
    showing things which can be made faster, smaller, fewer pieces, more
    cost effectively, and with automation or in-mold assembly, giving lower
    end product cost with better features.

    Creative shapes, and consumer interface esthetics and such are
    something I see in retail products, but I don't design that type of
    product. Still, I admire truly good consumer products.

    A design that is mundane, but funtionally better in a widely used
    consumer product has to be the Heinz bottom dispensing catsup bottle
    using the over-center elastomeric valve from Liquid Molding Systems
    <http://www.siliconelms.com> off the patent by Drobish, 4,728,006. It
    solves user interface, cleanliness & functional problems whiles still
    being an attractive bottle.

    Some of these simple one, two or three piece products are very clever,
    and worth learning from.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Sep 1, 2006
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  10. RaceBikesOrWork

    Bo Guest

    Today in business: Heinz revenue up 8% and profits up 23%.

    Heinz must be doing more things right, than just catsup.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Sep 1, 2006
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  11. RaceBikesOrWork

    ed1701 Guest

    I hope this doesn't 'out' me or get me into an trouble, but frankly I'm
    with BO on his/her/its post.

    I want to spend my time designing stuff, not monitoring and nursing my
    system. I put up with the added responsibility of system maintenece
    (grudgingly, and frankly not as much or diligently as I ought to)
    because we all have to, but I would hope at some point the providers of
    our software could be able to deliver on the following relationship:

    Me - Designer / You (SWx) - software engineer.
    Me- Design stuff / You (Swx) - take care of the software thing

    And now we enter the disclaimers: (yes I understand its complciated and
    all systems are different and if you are sloppy and get viruses and
    junk and look at naughty websites or any websites frankly what can they
    do and how can they possibly deal with every variation of driver on
    every piece of hardware and all of the other software on your system
    and what if you spill a coke on the keyboard then isn't it your fault
    that SWx doesn't work and boy oh boy Linux is a gift from god and if
    they would just port it over that would be the swellest thing on earth
    but it aint never going to happen and anyone who says otherwise is a
    jughead and etc etc etc).

    I just want to load my software and work, then go home. Is that really
    so bad a goal?

    Ed
     
    ed1701, Sep 1, 2006
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  12. RaceBikesOrWork

    Bo Guest

    We think somewhat alike Ed.

    I would like to make a confirming note as I tried to upgrade SWks 2006
    sp3.4 to sp5.0 today.

    The installer could NOT find the right confirming file on the original
    SWks 2006 Sp1.0 CD (though SP 3.4 upgraded from said same CD) in order
    to allow the installer to do the upgrade.

    Frankly, that is not something the user should have to deal with. This
    is right in where SolidWorks needs to put more work in their software
    systems. This should have been one of my 10 Top Improvements: Make
    the Installers Work 100%.

    My VAR, did NOT know what to do with the problem (quoth the VAR, "We
    haven't downloaded and installed SP 5.0 yet.")

    SP 5.0 is NOT installing, & I am going home for a good long weekend.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Sep 2, 2006
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  13. RaceBikesOrWork

    cd Guest

    Hmmmm... I have SW 2007 on 2 machines, no troubles.. I just got done
    building a new mold, 2 week turnaround, not a hint of trouble... a few
    crashes, but mainly due to my CW add in...I even reinstalled SW2007
    when I got the disks this week (Uninstall web DL and installed off
    DVD)... they really fixed the install..used to take an hour or more,
    now it takes me 10 min and all done...

    At the shop, I have a Spaceball 4000, home I run a Toshiba laptop...
     
    cd, Sep 2, 2006
    #33
  14. Good news, SP1.0EV solves my problem.

    Lesson re-learned, no SP0.0 installs.
     
    RaceBikesOrWork, Sep 15, 2006
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