2004: DWG File Format. Sham & Shinola or Real Value?

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by clintonG, Jun 26, 2003.

  1. clintonG

    clintonG Guest

    What good is a 'secure' file format if the asset can still be edited when
    distributed to others for review? Is the 'new and improved' DWG
    secure like a bank vault that allows anybody to enter and handle assets
    at will?

    The proper use of secure certificates in this context would enable the
    distribution of an asset such that the asset may be made totally secure
    allowing no edits when distributed. The highest and best use of certificates
    would also allow role based security provisioning so as to enable selective
    editing of the asset which would likely occur using a layering paradigm.

    So what are the facts here? More of the typical 'new and improved' or does
    the 'new and improved' DWG actually provide meaningful value?

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    clintonG, Jun 26, 2003
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  2. clintonG

    clintonG Guest

    Thanks for your response. I was aware of the passwording function
    having read the product reviews.

    The application of a digital signature in the context as it has been explained
    is totally worthless. Well, it has some value to create the allusion that a file
    may be secure while in transit.

    I suppose this is good news for a 3rd party developer that will now
    create a password manager. After all, how else would a firm track
    each of the sheets in a set of plumbing schematics has been secured
    using the password PLUMBING?


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    clintonG, Jun 27, 2003
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  3. clintonG

    clintonG Guest

    Thank you, I am aware of the product. Had AutoDesk done their
    job correctly the CADLock developer would be looking for a new
    development opportunity.

    I don't recall his name but we talked via telephone in the early
    90's and had a couple good laughs.

    I don't neccessarily want to see the small potatos get mashed but having
    genuinely secure drawings managed with intelligent role-based
    authentication is way overdue.


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    clintonG, Jun 27, 2003
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  4. clintonG

    Mike Sapp Guest

    Worthless is a bit strong. A digital signature (DS) intent is NOT to secure a
    drawing. It resembles something like a stamped drawing. The DS shows what is an
    authorized use and when it has been modified from the original. It is a legal
    signature. Your signature on a document does not secure it from being misused. It
    indicates which version of the document you have agreed to. Any modifications that
    are done after the DS can then be taken to court as unauthorized use.

    The DS is a common idea that is used in a number of applications in the "digital" world.

    I agree that there is a need to have a higher control of the drawings through
    passwords. I would like to see several levels of control; view, print, copy, and
    modify. Each having a seperate password.

    Mike
     
    Mike Sapp, Jun 27, 2003
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  5. clintonG

    jonesr Guest

    Who will use password protection and why?
     
    jonesr, Jun 27, 2003
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  6. clintonG

    Mike Sapp Guest

    Yep, that is a problem.

     
    Mike Sapp, Jun 27, 2003
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  7. clintonG

    clintonG Guest

    clintonG, Jun 28, 2003
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  8. clintonG

    Mike Sapp Guest

    I do NOT agree that the Digital Signature is useless. In the field of Architecture
    and Engineering, drawings are required by the state to be stamped and signed. As
    the world goes digital, the need for an equivelent to a signature is extremly
    important. This is what the Digital Signature is answering. There are in fact,
    municipalities that are requiring drawings in electronic format. In this case how
    do you protect yourself and prove that this is the drawing that you sent. The
    digital signature will provide this protection.

    This will become more and more a requirement in the years to come.

    Useless, Maybe for what you want it to do, but not for what the developers intended.
     
    Mike Sapp, Jun 30, 2003
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  9. clintonG

    jonesr Guest

    Again I ask, who will use the password feature and why?
     
    jonesr, Jul 1, 2003
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  10. clintonG

    Mike Sapp Guest

    I can't answer that one for you. If I send a file to someone, I would want to
    control what they can do with it, once they open it, not just can they open it. I
    my mind the password feature is not developed enough to be useful.

    This is a separate issue from the digital signature though.

    Mike
     
    Mike Sapp, Jul 2, 2003
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